Thousands took to the streets across Israel Saturday night to call for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s ouster and new elections, in demonstrations spanning from Tel Aviv and Jerusalem to Haifa and Caesarea in the north and Be’er Sheva in the south.
At a demonstration in front of the President’s Residence in Jerusalem, Yosef Angel, bereaved father and grandfather of 17-year-old Ofir Angel, who was freed from Hamas captivity in Gaza, said “You stand at the head, and are responsible for the October 7 holocaust. You are trying to escape responsibility and look for someone else to blame, shame on you.”
Hamas committed genocide.
The Palestinian movement has failed to adequately separate itself from Hamas. No real denouncements of Hamas. You have people cosplaying as Hamas genocidal psychopaths at Pro-Palestine rallies.
Now the tactic seems to be to literally “both sides” genocide. Claim that Israel is committing genocide to provide cover for the genocide Hamas committed.
The old fascist tactic of accusing the other side of the things you’re guilty of.
What’s happening now is a war. A war that was started by the genocide Hamas committed. Given how Hamas has embedded itself into the civilian population, given that Hamas doesn’t wear uniforms which would allow the IDF to distinguish combatants from civilians, given Hamas has made zero effort to protect the civilian population, building bunkers only for themselves… yeah it’s a war with a lot of civilian casualties. A war Hamas started. A war Hamas created the conditions in which there would be high civilians casualties.
Anyone that’s cracked open a history book knows what this is. People with foreign policy experience knows what’s up.
But people reading the boosted Hamas propaganda have read the same lies over and over again enough times that they believe it.
Then scream on the internet about “why is Joe Biden allowing this to happen?”
It’s because he’s not in the information silo you’re in. Hamas committed genocide. No matter how much people want to deny it, no matter all the “both sides” fascist narratives are spread on the internet, the truth is that Hamas committed genocide. Hamas started the war. Hamas set up the conditions for the war. As Hamas is being contained, the civilian casualties are dropping. Civilian casualties happen in Israel when Hamas is present. Civilian casualties also happen in Gaza when Hamas is present. Israel is not committing genocide because if that were the case, civilian casualties would increase where Hamas isn’t present to protect them. But the opposite is happening. Civilian casualties are decreasing as Israel takes control of Gaza from Hamas.
You’ve been lied to. It’s easier to convince someone of a lie than it is to convince them they’ve been lied to. It’s not just the MAGAs that need deprogramming. There’s a lot of people that fell for Hamas propaganda.
Yowza! That’s a lot of easily disproven misinformation. You do realize you’re on the Internet, right? You can actually look up the things you’re claiming and verify they’re not true.
Gish Gallop
That much is true
10 Myths of Israel
British Mandate Period:
The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948
Palestinian Arab Congress advocating for Unified State 1928
1929 Riots from Forward and 972Mag
Shaw Commission
Peel Commission Report and Memorandum of the Arab Higher Committee 1937
1936-1939 Revolt from JVL, Britannica, MEE
Irgun and Lehi activity
1948 to 1967:
Plan Dalet and Declassified Massacres
Arab League advocating for unified state 1948
1967 war Declassified
Israel Martial Law and Defence (Emergency) Regulations practiced in the occupied territories after 1967
How the US became the ally of Israel
Occupation:
Occupation and 50 years of dispossession
Palestinians lack civil rights
Palestinian Prisoners in Israel and Military Court
1st Intifada AJ, Haaretz, PBS
History of peace process
2nd Intifada AJ and Haaretz
Gaza Blockade is Occupation
No freedom of movement
Hamas founding charter and Revised charter 2017
Gaza March for Return Protest
Arab Israelis are not equal including Education (2001 report)
Apartheid
Water control
Settler Violence
Torture and Abuse in Interrogations
Child abuse of Palestinian prisoners
Human Shields including Children (2013 Report)
AWRAD Gaza War Poll
PCPSR Public Opinion Poll Dec 2023
One State Solution, Foreign Affairs archived here
River to the Sea History, as Transfer
Genocide:
ICJ Ruling archived here
Experts on Genocide at US Court on the issue
800+ Legal Scholars on International Law and Genocide on whether it amounts to genocide
Is What’s Happening in Gaza a Genocide? Experts Weigh In
Law for Palestine Releases Database with 500+ Instances of Israeli Incitement to Genocide
GDF has a pretty good video on it imo
Really telling on yourself here! Would be funny if you weren’t so sad.
You must be paid well to write so much because everything after this was a total waste
nice thesis you got there.
They went into villages and massacred every man, woman and child they could find simply because they didn’t approve of people of a certain ethnicity living where they did.
how did they gather so many hostages? if they massacred every man woman and child how can hostages be real?
you lost the plot. your thesis has no ground basis and is all feelings and nothing more. terror attack? yes. genocide? not even close.
at least you say hamas, and not palestinians.
Because you can take some people hostage while killing other people? It’s not really that complicated.
Yeah because I’m consistently against hating people based on their ethnicity.
If this forum was dominated by people saying Palestinians are evil, I would be speaking out against that.
But this forum happens to be dominated be people promoting antisemitic conspiracy theories, and people that deny the existence of violence towards Jews. So I’m speaking out against that.
If you can see past the emotional manipulations that are happening in this particular information silo, you’ll see the same pattern of behaviour I’m seeing. This forum is devolving into straight up antisemitism.
Criticizing the government and military of Israel is not anti Semitism anymore than calling out the American government is racism.
Rehashing the century old Protocols of the Elders of Zion shtick is antisemitism. And that kind of stuff has become mainstream now.
The closest thing I’ve seen to that is people wondering why the hell the Western world is supporting such an obvious genocide. And that’s a fair question.
they didn’t discriminate on ethnicity.
The whole point of Hamas is they’re angry about Jews living in places that think Palestinians should living in. They went into villages that the believe should have only Palestinians living in and murdered every Jew they could find living there.
Maybe you’ve fallen sway to the blood and soil “river to the sea” narrative, but it’s really just wanting a specific ethnicity living on certain patches of dirt and not wanting another ethnicity living there. Hamas has not been subtle about this. It’s a fascist tendency we’ve seen many times before.
Hi. I have combat experience and foreign policy experience.
You’re full of shit. This war is not to international standards. Israel has repeatedly failed to hold it’s troops accountable for documented, credible accusations, of war crimes. That alone from a professional army is shocking. But on the policy side the IDF has a choice they refuse to make. They can let refugees out, deliver food aid themselves, or let the UN deliver food aid. They have decided to force people to remain in the combat zone and starve.
This is all well documented. It’s not propaganda. And it is the conduct of a systemic genocide.