In-N-Out Burger says it will close its first location in its 75-year history due to a wave of car break-ins, property damage, theft and robberies affecting customers and employees alike at its only restaurant in Oakland, California.
The fast-food burger joint in a busy corridor near Oakland International Airport will close on March 24 because even though the company has taken “repeated steps to create safer conditions our Customers and Associates are regularly victimized,” Denny Warnick, In-N-Out’s chief operating officer, said in a statement Wednesday.
Ah yes just like all the other stores that “closed due to theft”
Oakland
But then again…
People here trying to make this about masking bad business decisions etc don’t live in Oakland. I live here, it’s really bad right now.
I was joking with a friend that a lot of Oakland feels like a bad 80s dystopia film…like you know those scenes with hobos warming themselves around a burning oil drum, stripped and burned out cars everywhere, piles of trash, drug addicts and prostitutes wandering around, etc? That’s literally real life in a large part of east Oakland. Like I’ve swear to god seen a half dozen girls at one intersection twerking in the middle of the street on the yellow lines, and one block over is a 5 block long encampment (16th and international/ 12th st).
Like this shit is on Google street view! It’s not hard to find. Follow this road all the way down to Fruitvale ave, it’s like a solid mile of a 3rd world refugee camp.
I was about to comment that I lived in Oakland for 5 years and it really isn’t that bad. Like any city, it has its bad parts that you need to avoid. But you cleared it up.
a large part of east Oakland
A large part of east Oakland is bad. Luckily, it’s easy to avoid… but not if you already live there.
It’s like a literal Hoovertown.
Good god it’s somehow gotten so much worse!
The crime stats and stories in this case are so bad they’d be comical if it didn’t represent desperate people.
Since 2019, police have logged 1,335 incidents in the vicinity of the restaurant on Oakport Street — more than any other location in Oakland, the newspaper reported.
That number includes nine robberies, two commercial burglaries, four domestic violence incidents and 1,174 car break-ins, according to Oakland police data shared with the Chronicle.
I saw elsewhere that a guy got robbed there, came back to do a news interview, and got robbed again. The crime stats mean basically a crime a day at that location.
I like how they list a single-digit numbers for a few crimes and then 1,174 car break-ins. 9 robberies and 2 burglaries in 4 years is almost nothing, but sounds like car break-ins are basically constant.
It being in Oakland makes me more suspicious, not less. That’s where the “crime wave panic” is at its strongest.
From comments here it seems that Oakland location really was notorious for crime and breakins
It might be “closed due to management theft from employees.”
Oaklander here. Shit has really gone downhill over the past decade. Tents started popping up about 15 years ago, and now some parts of town honestly make District 9 look nice. I see stuff in this down that I never thought I would see in an American city.
Edit:
Context: this is what I drive through to get to the hardware store. This street view is 3 years old. It’s actually worse now.
I clicked that thinking it would look like the bad parts of Paris. I was not expecting the bad parts of Fallout
Jesus fuck
My guess is that the map view folks are too scared to go back now. That thing is 3 years old.
When I looked at it, it said 7 months ago. So someone braved it relatively recently.
There’s actually a reason for it. The western Supreme Court (the court you go through before the US Supreme Court) made a ruling about a decade ago that all unhoused people can’t be removed from somewhere if there aren’t enough beds in the city for all unhoused people. So basically we can move guy #5 because there aren’t enough beds in shelters for 2,752 homeless people. Recently even Gavin Newsom was asking them to repeal the decision and was banding together with other western state governors and city mayors as they all say the ruling is unfair.
Sounds like they should be building shelters not trying to repeal a law that is designed to help people.
Having been homeless myself, referring to homeless people as “uNhOuSEd” does absolutely nothing but make you feel a tiny bit more morally superior
You’re making zero difference
Crazy how a place with so much wealth can have so many people living in destitute.
I guess that’s what we get when we’re just passing a bunch of money around at the top.
the one creates the other. the middle class is being gutted by the super rich, while congress is paid handsomely to do nothing about anything.
All that wealth is owned by a minuscule fraction of the population. The rest of the 99% are poor.
I get tired of hearing that America is a wealthy country. It’s not the people that are wealthy. It’s just 1% of the population that is wealthy. The rest are poor and just a single missed pay check from being on the street like the people in this photo.
Contextualizing it with District 9 really paints a bleak dystopia
It’s true. I drove truck down there. It literally looks like a warzone. There are clothes lines just hanging from cars everywhere in between tracks for cable cars. RVs on fire. Fires in trunks. It’s like Robocop from the 80s was real. Stay the fuck away from International (used to be E14). It’s not a good place.
I am willing to risk my life for the Sinaloa trucks in that part of town. If that’s how I go, so be it.
Aite. Ill give you the food trucks. But I ain’t even thinking about it at night.
I used to do a taco crawl on my birthday. We’d walk international at night and get a taco at like 6 places. Last time I did that was about 7 or 8 years ago. I might only do it in the day now.
Sinaloa has a place on Telegraph now, and that is a lot less sketchy. But it’s also not quite as good as the truck.
Omg it has images from 6 years ago and 7 months ago. The difference is absolutely mind blowing. But also in general, to see how it looks now its just so depressing. I’ve been reading a book right now that’s based in the 1930s and this looks and feels like the Hoovertowns they describe.
Holy shit that is awful, this country is a dumpster fire.
That looks like a street corner in Missouri.
Missouri doesn’t have as huge a homeless problem as California, there’s not as many homeless people come winter time in Missouri.
And that stops this looking like Missouri how?
It takes a couple of years for a homeless camp to reach those levels and that magnitude of squaler.
Are police officers blaming all the defunding efforts that actually never happened yet?
The cops cannot move them because the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals found it unconstitutional to move them.
Sounds pretty par for the course for Oakland, tbh. The locals probably know better, but the airport ought to be notifying visitors that they can’t be leaving valuables in their cars in that city. And that they’re gonna want the insurance on their rentals.
For real. I learned about this from a guy delivering my weed when we visited. That’s when I learned what biping was. Never would have known. “You dont want to rent a car in Oakland”
What is biping for those of us not in the loop?
Bipping is the act of stealing from cars, often through the use of “splashing” (breaking the car windows).
It’s an exit away from the airport. It’s def scetch. I only worked down there when I could park my car or bike inside a gate.
Can’t have shit in Oakland…
I came in here to call bullshit. Then I saw it was in Oakland. Nvrmnd. Carry on.
Oakland should get a police department.
I lived in east Oakland for a good while around lower Seminary. Shit is waaaay more complicated than that. Fuck directly off. You don’t know shit if you haven’t lived it.
I don’t think anyone here is under the illusion that fixing policing in this country, let alone Oakland, is a simple task.
Maybe it’s a cultural issue.
If the people living in oakland want to behave like animals, then they can live like animals.
“If” is doing so much heavy lifting in that sentence you can probably leave the rest of the words out. Nobody wants to live that way.
Underrated comment.
Lol, oakland.
Land of the free cars.
I thought that the whole “bay area is getting worse” was a front propagated by big businesses trying to hide their corporate losses to shareholders. Weird huh
And in Canada, at least one Tim Horton’s restaurant had to close dine-in because of violent drug addicts and homeless people making it unsafe for everyone. 😵
noo I love burgers :(
Why not hire a security guard? This sounds like some packaged bullshit trying to blame downsizing on crime, just like CVS did a couple years ago.
Yeah it is, just like all that shit about how retail stores last year having to close because of crime AS CRIME WAS FUCKING PLUMMETING
was crime really plummeting at a time when we were seeing a slew of security videos showing mass amounts of organized smash-and-grabs all over California?
social media can let people believe what they want, but the retail org that claimed closed stores were from shoplifting retracted their claims after it was revealed they were unsourced hearsay. Most closures have been from low sales in office districts since remote work expanded
social media
no, It was security camera footage
the retail org that claimed closed stores were from shoplifting retracted their claims after it was revealed they were unsourced hearsay
yeah I read that article too. It was one article.
vs several clips of security footage showing increased incidences of smash-and-grabs from dozens of different retail stores
sure they closed cracker barrels and Walmarts and Targets and CVS stores in all the high-crime areas due to “low sales in office districts since remote work expanded.” sure.
Is that the same reason those same stores we go to now have most of the products displayed behind locked cases which necessitates customers tracking down an employee just to purchase a pair of hair clipping scissors? Yes I kid you not, I wanted to buy a pair of hair clipping scissors from a Walmart in California a couple years ago and it was locked behind a case and I had to track down an employee just to purchase a pair of scissors that were locked behind a plexiglass case.
do they keep all that merchandise locked behind a plexiglass case due to “low sales in office district since remote work expanded?” or due to increased incidences of theft?
the crime stats and lost goods in those stores were not particularly exceptional. What was exceptional was low sales at those stores.
often when you get a clip, you don’t even know what the date is. I’ve seen people post shit from the 1980s saying it was yesterday. Clips show that something happened somewhere at some point, not that rates are going up or down.
It’s both, in high theft areas you need more sales to offset your losses. Low sales and high theft will close a buisness fast.
You’re getting downvotes, presumably from people who haven’t spent any time in NorCal. This is a problem everywhere there from Oakland, to SF, to Palo Alto and San Jose. No where in the bay in safe from this.
No locals leave anything of value in there car for any amount of time.
I learned that in 2013 when my rental was broken into in a fancy Palo Alto restaurant.
But these aren’t violent crimes, which I think are declining, just property crimes.
If you go resturants around lunch you’ll see a bunch of people with a laptop bag or backpack but they don’t get their computers out. Companies tell their employees to never leave laptops in their cars, even for just a minute.
*reported crime.
At some point, store workers give up on calling in for your average shoplifter.
Idk, looking in from the outside adding a security guard usually ends up with someone dying in the US. Either the security guard tries to be John wick but ends up being a Paul blart or the security guard is a waste of salary as they go “why would I risk my life, fuck that.”.
At best it would be a deterrent to young kids who get cocky.
Nah. There are security guards everywhere and most of them don’t ever kill anyone.
You just said it yourself, “most”
I agree it’s the wild West over here with guns and gun nuts but for the number of security guards compared to the number of shootings they do, they aren’t a significant portion of them. They are way fewer cops, and way more police shootings.
I’m more worried about security guards getting shot than them shooting ngl
Oh no! Anyway…
