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    That’s a weird way of bragging about understaffing leading to overwork, but I guess it explains why they can’t kick those quality issues.

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      Statements like that are just going to make it easier for the UAW to unionise those plants. Union factory workers don’t sleep on the floor.

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        That does make a compelling campaign slogan. While I assume Musk’s statement should not be taken literally, IIRC he made similar statements about Twitter. Shortly after, there were countless reports of how awful it suddenly became to work at Twitter.

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          You’re actually right, this would look great on a poster. I hadn’t even considered that, it was just a statement of fact.

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      I do t think musk will get his 25 either

      In related news, Musk gave Tesla an ultimatum earlier this month: increase his ownership in the company to 25% or he will cut back on its development of AI and robotics The billionaire already owns 13% of the EV giant, or approximately 411 million shares. However, it seems he won’t be happy unless he’s awarded another 12%.

      Another ridiculous thing, the article says this new model might comes without steering wheel or pedals… .his self driving is no where near ready for that, especially since he cheaps out and uses cameras on high end models, the cheap one is going to have even worse cameras instead of the lidar they should all have

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      This guy has never been able to hit his MSRP goals.

      That said, if he can’t ship a crossover for $35k, Volvo-Polestar will eat his lunch with the ex30. And like Telsa, Volvo has markup-free / commission-free purchase options. I got my last Volvo for MSRP. Ordered online with no BS.

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        If it weren’t for the whole everything-controlled-via-infotainment-screen thing, the EX30 would be on the short list for my next vehicle, but that’s a dealbreaker. I’m still rooting for Volvo, at least as much as I’d “root” for a company.

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      And it won’t go into production next year. But workers will still be treated like shit.

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    Lots of interesting articles and research talking about the problem of many CEOs exhibiting psychopathic traits but it being accepted. For example.

    https://fortune.com/2021/06/06/corporate-psychopaths-business-leadership-csr/

    “Our culture also glorifies and rewards successful leaders who may lie somewhere on the spectrum of psychopathy or who, if not actually psychopathic, nevertheless display traits that psychopathic individuals frequently have. The problem, of course, is that while psychopaths may have a lot of charisma and creativity, they may also lack, as already mentioned, socially important qualities such as empathy and morality.”

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      Yeah this is why there is so much suffering under capitalism.

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        The key thing is that it’s not our culture, it’s the material interests of the rich that elevate psychopaths to power. The culture follows.

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          This country was founded on rich assholes who didnt like the monarchy. It’s always been about greed. You think the starving plebs gave a fuck about tea in a harbor?

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              Yeah, it does exist elsewhere; I think the point they’re making is that it is apparent the United States was founded specifically for the interests of landowning (and slave owning) rich people. While not unique globally, the USA was probably the first country intentionally founded to protect the capitalist instead of the nobility or a religious group.

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    Saying we expect our employees to act as slaves, weird flex there Space Karen.

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    Damn, he’s admitting his company is so close to collapse that everyone will have to literally sleep on the floor there just to try to save the business?

    Bold move.

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      Is $25k affordable? How much are cars? 25k sounds like a fuckload of money.

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        For a new car? $25k is a pretty low price, at least in the US. My car was $24k new 10 years ago. It wasn’t particularly special then.

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          Supposedly my 2016 Corolla was 25k I think. But after all the fees and taxes and shit I feel like it was closer to 30k. All I know for real was that it was about $10/day for 7 years.

          *Canadian $

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          Chevy Bolt was under $25k before the $7500 credit. Now the same car is $40k.

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        $25k is actually very affordable for what new cars go for. That was deemed affordable 10 years ago, so hitting that price point today is an even bigger deal.

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          I live in a shitty neighborhood. The amount of Audi, bmw, Porsche SUVs is crazy.

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            The trick is, luxury cars drop in value insanely fast. A 2 year old Audi is often about the same price as a new Honda. The problem these people don’t account for is maintenance costs. They think they are getting a deal, then they are getting dragged down by an unreliable vehicle that they can’t afford to fix.

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              They think they are getting a deal, then they are getting dragged down by an unreliable vehicle that they can’t afford to fix.

              If memory serves, the outliers here are Lexus and Audi which both score high on reliability ratings. I could be wrong though, is been a couple of years since I looked into owning a car.

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      Tesla’s quality control is already shit.

      Imagine how much worse it could get if the workers are even more sleep deprived.

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    Anyone qualified to work on his production line can work on another. Or many many other mechanical/production roles.

    I question anyone who would work those hours, sleep in the facility, accept the oats, and still whine.

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      The problem is who is hiring. Tesla’s factory is the only big factory in an area where there are other big car factories. Good luck finding another job in the area of Fremont.

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        Understood, but I’m saying ultimately these are skilled, desirable workers who should be seeking new opportunities NOW

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    Tesla already has the highest accident risk, are they trying to increase their lead?

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    There are rumors that it could come without a steering wheel or any pedals to lower costs

    Ehm what? Full self driving (and self crashing)??

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      Unless they found another legal loophole this will not happen. The reason Tesla can public test their FSD is because, legally, it’s only autonomous level 2 and the responsibility falls on the driver. But autonomous level 2 also requires the steering wheel because the driver is supposed to keep their hands on the wheel at all times. No wheel means no level 2 and no level 2 means stricter regulations and stricter regulations most likely means higher costs.

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    I sure want to pay too much money for an unreliable potential fireball built by exhausted workers for a rich puppet that’s been portrayed as a genius by a controlled main stream media owned by corporations and governments that use said puppet to build and fund tech used by the military to murder strangers around the world.