• kescusay@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    I’m temporarily unlocking this post again, but I’ll be keeping an eye on it. I don’t want to see it descend into vitriolic lashing out at one another again. Come on, people, keep it civil. This is supposed to be a fun and welcoming community for everyone, and I want it to stay that way.

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    Furry here and just want to say: isn’t this entire discussion super disrespectful to the important job that animal control personnel actually do?

    Like, animal control has an important role in protecting communities from animals and helping animals that are injured. They shouldn’t have to be dragged into this stupid outrage farming.

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      If I worked for animal control and some dipshit school administer asked be to come collect a human child from their school, they would receive the following with the minimum amount of tact needed to keep my job:

      • “I don’t care that’s it’s a law – that law was written by morons. You’re a moron too.”
      • Variations of “What the hell is wrong with you?”, “I don’t work for you”, and “Go fuck yourself”.

      I’d like to think most of the people actually employed as animal control officers would respond the same way.

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      Government is speedrunning a civil war by punishing 2 groups of people at the same time, for absolutely no reason.

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      It’s because furries are overwhelmingly queer and often used as a stand in for fear mongering about trans people (ex: the “litter boxes in schools” rumor).

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    9 months ago

    anthropomorphic behavior

    Anyone else morbidly curious about what happens if they don’t fix the bill’s wording and accidentally ban “human-shaped behavior” at school?

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    Not gonna lie, if a Furry told me they got arrested by animal control I’d be impressed.

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      Not saying this justifies it (kinda the opposite), but there’s a massive furry community in Oklahoma. They even used to have very large conventions there (still might?)

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        At the same time, this douchebag wants to specifically target kids who are playing pretend to make their miserable lives bearable, just to distract from real issues like trans bills, don’t say gay, and governmental corruption.

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    Imagine being an animal control guy and having a school seriously call you and ask you to take a stranger’s child because of that child’s participation in a subculture.

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      Pretty sure that will leave the animal control people open to being charged with botched citizen arrests. Not sure what Oklahoma’s particular arrest laws are like but for most States you are pretty limited in what you can do to perform one and the standards of places you can use to detain an arrested person in are usually at least required to be humane and actively monitored.

      The answer to "Little Timmy wore a tiger costume to school for Halloween do you have a cage available? " should properly be “Get fucked authoritarian scum I have actual work to do.”

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      Imagine working for the state and being ordered to engage in a random citizen’s kink.

      Yes, I know being a furry isn’t just a kink.

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        being ordered to engage in a random citizen’s

        That’s called oppression. Also furry is an identity, believe it or not.

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          I’m not buying the “furry isn’t just a kink” thing at all, but please enlighten me. How does it qualify as an identity?

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            Belonging to a fandom or other special interest community is typically something that is done through self-identification, which is different than identities that are not chosen, but still part of a broader idea of identity. There are plenty of examples of these self-chosen identities: Trekkies, Potterheads, Bronies, Cumberbitches, etc. Simply watching Star Trek doesn’t make you a Trekkie though, it’s a label people apply to themselves when they feel invested in that thing and want to be part of a community of people who feel the same. That’s all. I also hate to tell you that there are themed sex parties at Star Trek conventions too, so does that make being a Trekkie a kink? Is doing the Vulkan salute and telling someone to “live long and prosper” in public forcing that kink on others?

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    Who is Oklahoma Rep. Justin Humphrey?

    Humphrey has made headlines in recent years in his advocacy of prison reform, capital punishment reform and rural development.

    Oh I see now, he’s a dumb fuck white, rural, racist dumbass who saw something on the internet that made him feel funny and then tried to pray and then legislate the feelings away.

    Also more on Justin Humphrey via wikipedia:

    Humphrey’s efforts to introduce cockfighting legislation[27] has led to the outcry from animal rights advocates[28] and the former attorney general.[29] Oklahoma has been called the “Cockfighting Capitol of the United States.”[30] HB 2530, pushed by Justin Humphrey, died on April 13, 2023, for the second year in a row. Tulsa District Attorney Steve Kunzweiler said he was glad cockfighting remained a felony.[31] Transphobia and homophobia

    Humphrey has made multiple transphobic comments. In an email responding to a constituent Humphrey said “I understand transgender people have mental illness”.[32] This view is not supported by the World Health Organization or the American Psychiatric Association.[32] In an interview published after the incident on April 15, 2021, Humphrey doubled down by saying “I want to tell your audience there is no transgender. There is male and there is female. And transgender would be a mental health issue… So those people that say I’m bigoted, I will say you’re insane and you’re doing the people wrong by doing that.”[32] Freedom Oklahoma, an LGBT advocacy group, denounced Humphrey’s comments calling them “a long-debunked myth”.[32]

    Humphrey was quoted as saying “You’re dang skippy I’ll take my kid to a chicken fighting before I’m gonna take them to see a drag queen."[31]

    On the flip side, myself and my high school friends way, way back in the day would have a had a field day with this type of dumbass law. Would be a shame if this passed and students were to test the law and their parents and their state/local traffic engineers who probably didn’t think of this type of dumbass shit ever happening.

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    Humphrey’s bill, House Bill 3084, would ban “students who purport to be an imaginary animal or animal species, or who engage in anthropomorphic behavior commonly referred to as furries at school” from participating in class and school activities.

    This is, hands down, the worst description of furries I have ever read in my entire life.

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    Moral panic.

    The right isn’t happy unless it’s panicked about some moral outrage. In the absence of anything to be panicked about they make things up to be panicked about.

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      the thing is if they solve the real stuff the don’t have anything to campaign next time

      (this work for all parties)

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          I’m personally unhappy with arms being sent to Israel workout approval of shitbox Congress (no typo), and how bad housing and food prices have gotten… But not really a panic, those are very real things.

          Not this anti-furry shaming bullshit. What a waste of people’s time for something hurting nobody.

          Almost as dumb as that (both sides) argument.

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            The high cost of living isn’t a moral panic. The satanic panic, the satanic messages in rock music panic, the drag queen story time panic, and the furry litter box panic are moral panics.

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    Lawmaker: "If these flurries think they’re animals, we’re gonna treat them like animals! "

    Furries: “Yes, that’s exactly what we want.”

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    Jesus christ do these law makers just have nothing going on? We should really be revoking their pay for what is a complete dumpster fire of a waste of our taxes. I don’t want my money going to some white racist dumb fuck basing reality off of Fox news rage articles in his Facebook feed.

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    Imagine if this passes and the next day the entire school staff dresses up as furries in protest. “Okay Timmy you see that person with the fox outfit on? That’s your teacher today.”

    honestly small children might love that