For anyone who wants to do this, use Kill Windows Update. It’s simple. and it works. There’s several million reasons why conventional wisdom demands that you NOT do it, but I don’t give a fuck and if you don’t either, then this program is for you.
Gotta give this one a try!
You really shouldn’t
I don’t keep nuclear secrets on my PC, but sometimes I run tasks that take days to process, and Windows updates have fucked me more than once.
Updates patch major security vulnerabilities. It’s cute that you think nuclear secrets existing in your hard drive are the only reason why you should care if your PC is infected with malware but it isn’t. Malware can steal your keystrokes, granting attackers access to your bank accounts and every other place you sign into online. Malware also uses us background processes to do bad things, so your “multi-day” processes will take even longer when your computers resources are being hogged by nasty stuff.
And they can use your PC for DDoS attack on other people, so it’s not like it’s just your problem if your pc gets infected by everything ever.
Why?
Updates give you security patches
Yep. Windows is notoriously bad for security vulnerabilities but updates do fix them quite often
Do what I do and pull the power. Can’t risk M$ putting ads in my explorer
the lengths people will go to not simply use a better OS
Man I wish. All my work is CAD and rendering software. None of it works on Linux.
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Sledgehammer works too.
That’s not the best. Instead hold the power button until the computer turns off.
What is more dangerous about it than holding the power button?
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Your computer is still using the power and it can damage it
Thats not how that works.
Sure it could cause some data loss, or corruption, or other software issues if the computer was in the middle of something like applying updates, but it should not cause hardware damage. All this applies to holding the powerbutton as well by the way.
or (really unlikely, on a shit connector) you get shocked.
Then you have bigger problems. You shouldn’t be using a connector that’s a shock or fire hazard in the first place.
But seriously about the only bad thing about it is perhaps some wear and tear on the connector that’s not designed to be plugged in and pulled out every day. Alternatively you could also “pull the power” by pressing a button on your powerstrip (if you have that), or by flipping the powersupply button at the back of the computer to off. It all does the same thing: it cuts the power to the computer instantly.
It’s also more convenient to hold the button instead of having to unplug and re-plug.
Yes, but holding the button is not instant and it relies on a software function in the bios which can be buggy. Usually holding the button doesn’t even complete poweroff the system but puts it in a special “standby” power state where the motherboard still keeps providing power to some components. There are some issues that can only be resolved by a complete poweroff.
Just pause updates
i dont think that works for security updates
Should have installed Linux instead
I do use linux mint for basic stuff, bit I am a complete noob and can’t figure out how to get Altstore on it, not that it matters because it hasn’t been updated in 2 years for Linux
Its better to use a Hackintosh. I do for Sideloadly
I googled about it and I think I have found another thing to waste my day on! Can you dual-boot hackintosh with Linux mint?
Hell yes you can! Even triple boot with multiple distros or Wheendoes.
You’re using apple products? There’s your problem.
The software you’re talking about doesn’t even support Linux.
Bro, if you want to raise adoption you gotta drop the “IAmVerySmart” tone. Be kind with people, encourage them to learn. There was a time you didn’t know this either.
Instead of saying “haha you use apple” why not “Oh okay great, so if you used X on Apple you’ll probably find Y on Linux to be very similar”
If there’s anything Linux users are most known for on the internet it’s their holier than thou attitude towards windows users.
That’s the annoying attitude I’ve hated while being in the tech world. I was there back in the days of win98 vs the macintosh, and fanboys were just as annoying back then as they are now - and Linux users have always been the worst of both groups.
The world has nuance. We like Linux. There are fans of Windows and there are fans of Apple. We can show others how we like to use our computers without also demeaning them for their preferences. Above all else, we should admit that no one is stupid for using one OS over the other. I use linux for home, most of my career developing has been on Windows, and I currently develop for work on Mac. They all have their own usages.
Thanks for letting me vent that.
If OP is using an iPhone then Linux is probably not right for them. Just have to accept that you don’t control your own devices when you’re using those platforms.
Great, then you didn’t have to say “Should have installed linux instead” because you admit that it may not be the right solution for everyone.
Uh huh and I posted that before op said he was using an iPhone smartypants
And there’s your lesson about assuming things about people.
You do not need to update Linux?
Without intending to circlejerk, the only linux updates that I have encountered that required a reboot were kernel updates, and they don’t force a reboot, they just don’t apply until you do. And when you do update the kernel, the update is downloaded and set up without interrupting anything. You can just power off when you’re done, and next time you power on, it’s already updated. None of those “Please wait 5-10 minutes, and don’t power off your PC” messages.
Need to? yes. Have to? No
More like “it’s your choice”.
And if that choice was left to the average user, we would have computers that didn’t have security updates for years.
Well you are not forced, much better when trying to manage time or data
and you can use the pc while it updates
I never shut down or restart my computer. Then some mornings I find that Windows decided to automatically restart my computer anyway. I lost a lot of unsaved notes that way.
That’s a you problem. Don’t blame windows for shitty practices.
To be fair, it would also be highly distruptive if you let the computer run overnight to finish some long running job and Windows decides it’s rebootin’ time. The point is: the OS shouldn’t decide for you to reboot.
Windows doesn’t reboot when things are running.
Microsoft wouldn’t have to force reboots if there weren’t people like lunarul who keep their computer running perpetually.
Windows doesn’t reboot when things are running.
Plenty of reports to the contrary
Like using Windows
Ackshually you still can blame Windows for not supporting live updates.
It wasnt an issue until windows 10 though. It feels like computers are a bit worse now, imo. For some reason, it’s now popular opinion that it’s unsafe to run a computer as long as you like. It’s one of the main reasons I’ll move to Linux… some day
Not rebooting once in a while giving problems has been a thing since computers started using software.
… why exactly are you leaving unsaved work open on your PC and expecting it to be there the next day? And it seems it’s intentional? Think of all the things that could lose the work apart from an update. A power outage, a brownout, a failed PC component; memory corruption, and more.
It’s was just notes, not work work (that’s all in the cloud). And yes,I expect things to be there the next day, it’s been decades since I was working on a 2x86 with a bad hard drive that froze ar random intervals, so I had to save every few seconds. I do save even my random notes now, just in case, but if they get closes I will probably forget about them because the whole point is to have them on screen as reminders.
It’s weird how being forced to restart your computer by the OS is obviously a new feature yet people defend it so religiously.
I don’t understand why people care so much? It’s like people that don’t want to keep their PCs running always feel better about themselves for using their PC the way the OS forces them to?
I miss the days of if you don’t have something nice to say just stfu. Now, it’s if you don’t say anything to put them down, how will you feel better about yourself?
Eh… This was more of a comment on “why aren’t you saving your work” which has been a push point since the dawn of computers.
That said, forced updates and restarts aren’t a bad thing. They should be defended to an extent. You don’t remember the days of virtually every consumer PC being months behind on security updates? Viruses running rampant?
The feature can be bypassed by the users who actually care. Yes, with “a lot of” work to intentionally prevent non-power users from just flipping the bit and going back to a world of un-updated boxes of vulnerability.
I’m sorry that you’ve lost so much work. Although it’s kind of irresponsible to leave unsaved work open overnight. Perhaps you could look into applications that have an autosave feature? Alternativly if your workflow permits it do your work on the cloud?
I do my actual work in the cloud. But when I want to just jut down quick notes I open a Notepad window and write them there. Usually it’s something I need to remember for just a few hours later. Sometimes it’s something I’ll be expanding on somewhere permanent later on. It’s just the most handy place to write something down quickly. Sometimes I have one such window open, sometimes I end up with 6. I just so happened that night I had some more important notes that I didn’t transfer yet. I’ve got into the habit of saving them now just in case, so I have tons of small text files that I’ll probably forget about.
Why are people down voting you
Because we’re not looking to change our behavior we’re criticizing the decisions made by those that own the OS.
To me, the response comes off as completely missing the point, likely intentionally, and blatantly ignoring the meaning of the person they’re responding to.
It’s like saying, I wish my favorite show wasn’t cancelled and someone replying with why don’t you just have a different favorite show?
You are the reason Microsoft has to force computers to restart for the rest of us.
Reboot once in a while, you are to blame for your lost unsaved data.
I’m the reason Microsoft never learned how to do updates without restarting?
At this point I just accept that my windows desktop is going to reboot itself and update itself every fucking night. I used to be able to leave it on for months at a time only rebooting when I felt like it and had prepared all of my open projects to be rebooted.
Now I do those projects on my Linux PC, which has to be a separate PC now because the windows updates completely screw up dual booting. Microsoft is such a shit show, I would probably only turn on that PC on the weekends except I need Windows for work.
Put a second hard drive In your PC and install Linux solely to it. Then you can use your BIOS boot menu to choose which OS to boot and Windows can’t wreck GRUB when updating.
I thought that too. My (now windows only) computer has two M2 slots, I used one for Linux and one for Windows. One day I walked into my office having left windows running the night before and my computer had rebooted and updated, The first thing I did was try to boot into the Linux partition and it did not work.
Not taking that chance again, I now have two separate PCs on my desk.
Hmm. That’s interesting. The only thing I can think of that could potentially cause that is if for whatever reason there was an exisitng EFI partition on your linux drive. Windows will use whatever EFI it sees even if it’s on a separate drive from it’s primary NTFS partition. As you can imagine this can cause some fucky stuff to happen.
Some instructions I’ve read for dual booting recommend installing Linux first, removing the SSD wit Linux on it from the computer, and then install Windows to prevent that from happening.
It’s really shitty that users have to go through all that trouble, though.
“Update and Shutdown”… Walk away.
Did that, computer temporarily died.
What’s power button right? Do power buttons have rights? Or is it right side of power button?
The power button has the right to legally shutdown the computer it belongs to
Not any longer sadly, kinda amazing how windows has that much control, I always thought it was a way to brute force a shutdown when you can’t do anything else
Edit: I have the realized the error of my ways thanks to moody, 5sec hold on the power button forces a shutdown, pressing it once is just a software one
Pressing the power button once does a software shutdown. Holding the power button for about 5 seconds will do a hard power off.
It baffles me how many people don’t know that.
My Mom didn’t know and Windows was stuck, not even the clock ticking. She had to wait until I got home and powered it off.
Power button has rescue rights. I had to use the power button after Windows forced an update on Friday and my tower just sat there powered on but doing nothing for an hour, no signal to the monitor. Now I feel bad, it was probably just high on drugs.
Linux mint, I just type sudo apt update and I’m done.
long press power button
That’s what I was thinking, hard shutdown
I have an extra wireless keyboard laying around just because it has a quick shutdown button on it.
You’re the reason Microsoft has to force it on the rest of us.
Everyone would still be able to shut down without updating, if people actually rebooted once in a while when Windows asked. Instead of leaving it in a perpetual sleep cycle of multiple years, and then blaming Microsoft when things go tits up.
At least the Pro version is still able to do so, since then the user can blame the IT department instead.
I just don’t think the sex will have been very good.
Try configuring windows update
People who shutdown their desktop computer everytime they’re done using it are so bizarre to me. Why? What are you trying to protect? I only reboot when updates are needed and otherwise my computer is on 24/7. Been doing this since ~2004 and have never had an issue.
What are you trying to protect?
I don’t like wasting electricity
Yup, Also, I hate having a million LEDs lighting up my house like it’s Christmas year round. I sleep better when it’s actually dark. I make a point to only get stuff that’s actually off when I turn it off.
You can put it to sleep/energy saving mode. If you Google how to you can also put it to hybernate. I don’t think the original commenter does it, but I recommend it.
Or I could just not do any of that and turn it off. It doesn’t hurt anything to turn your PC off. I promise. Especially since standby mode comes with those stupid LEDs I hate, and hibernate takes longer to boot back up then a cold boot.
Do you also keep your car running all day for when you have to be somewhere and only turn off the engine at the gas station?
Nah, you just didn’t notice the issues, but they are definitely there.
Anyway, my computer boots in less than 5 seconds. Why wouldn’t I just shut it down when I am done?
Do you also not bother closing your books when you go do something else?
Nope, no issues in all these years.
