• burgersc12@sh.itjust.works
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        11 months ago

        Says the guy fighting me (an absolute idiot) and still not understanding what i am trying to say.

        I think this sums it up nicely

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          11 months ago

          Everyone gets what you’re trying to say, don’t worry. Something about the average person right?

          Edit: I mean, I want this to soak in. This guy is literally preaching doom to a guy actively working to solve these problems. Like, you’d think he’d want to support something like that, but he’d rather shit on it and bring the room down with him. Is that hilarious or what :)

          Doomerism doesn’t help anyone, it keeps people paralyzed. Fucking do something instead.

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              11 months ago

              I’m sure your perspective is just what everyone needs. I’ll continue on trying to solve shit you’d rather endlessly complain about.

              Edit: and being 20 years into this industry I can tell you I’m not alone in my sentiment about such doomerism.

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                  11 months ago

                  Then pray tell what I’ve been up to then if I’m the one not in tune with reality. And explain to me how your approach to this helps anyone. Because I certainly wasn’t motivated to act because of people like you. I’m motivated by the calculated need to solve these things, like climate change, not fall to thoughts that promote motionlessness. If reality actually followed the way you thought, then you ought to question why so many driven and intelligent people dedicate themselves to the cause instead of espousing literal doom like it helps anything.

                  I’ll take the productive route, thanks.

                  Edit: I doubt there’s any response this person can come up with that would dissuade me from continuing to help solve these problems, so I’ll leave this here, for those who’d like to educate themselves:

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomer

                  "The term “doomer” was popularized in commentary surrounding Jonathan Franzen’s 2019 essay in The New Yorker titled “What if We Stopped Pretending?”. The piece made an argument against the possibility of averting climatic catastrophe. In addition to popularizing the term among general audiences, Franzen’s piece was highly popular among online Doomer communities, including the Facebook groups Near Term Human Extinction Support Group and Abrupt Climate Change.

                  "The BBC describes sustainability professor Jem Bendell’s self-published paper Deep Adaptation: A Map for Navigating Climate Tragedy as “the closest thing to a manifesto for a generation of self-described ‘climate doomers’”. As of March 2020, the paper had been downloaded more than a half-million times. In it, Bendell claims there is no chance to avert a near-term breakdown in human civilization, but that people must instead prepare to live with and prepare for the effects of climate change.

                  “Climate scientist Michael E. Mann described Bendell’s paper as “pseudo-scientific nonsense”, saying Bendell’s “doomist framing” was a “dangerous new strain of crypto-denialism” that would “lead us down the very same path of inaction as outright climate change denial”. An essay published on OpenDemocracy argues that the paper is an example of “climate doomism” that “relies heavily on misinterpreted climate science”.”

                  I love being right.

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                    11 months ago

                    You don’t even know my approach so any comparisons you’ve made are invalid. Imagine having the ego to declare yourself right while being so wilfully ignorant.