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    Everyone gets what you’re trying to say, don’t worry. Something about the average person right?

    Edit: I mean, I want this to soak in. This guy is literally preaching doom to a guy actively working to solve these problems. Like, you’d think he’d want to support something like that, but he’d rather shit on it and bring the room down with him. Is that hilarious or what :)

    Doomerism doesn’t help anyone, it keeps people paralyzed. Fucking do something instead.

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        I’m sure your perspective is just what everyone needs. I’ll continue on trying to solve shit you’d rather endlessly complain about.

        Edit: and being 20 years into this industry I can tell you I’m not alone in my sentiment about such doomerism.

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            Then pray tell what I’ve been up to then if I’m the one not in tune with reality. And explain to me how your approach to this helps anyone. Because I certainly wasn’t motivated to act because of people like you. I’m motivated by the calculated need to solve these things, like climate change, not fall to thoughts that promote motionlessness. If reality actually followed the way you thought, then you ought to question why so many driven and intelligent people dedicate themselves to the cause instead of espousing literal doom like it helps anything.

            I’ll take the productive route, thanks.

            Edit: I doubt there’s any response this person can come up with that would dissuade me from continuing to help solve these problems, so I’ll leave this here, for those who’d like to educate themselves:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomer

            "The term “doomer” was popularized in commentary surrounding Jonathan Franzen’s 2019 essay in The New Yorker titled “What if We Stopped Pretending?”. The piece made an argument against the possibility of averting climatic catastrophe. In addition to popularizing the term among general audiences, Franzen’s piece was highly popular among online Doomer communities, including the Facebook groups Near Term Human Extinction Support Group and Abrupt Climate Change.

            "The BBC describes sustainability professor Jem Bendell’s self-published paper Deep Adaptation: A Map for Navigating Climate Tragedy as “the closest thing to a manifesto for a generation of self-described ‘climate doomers’”. As of March 2020, the paper had been downloaded more than a half-million times. In it, Bendell claims there is no chance to avert a near-term breakdown in human civilization, but that people must instead prepare to live with and prepare for the effects of climate change.

            “Climate scientist Michael E. Mann described Bendell’s paper as “pseudo-scientific nonsense”, saying Bendell’s “doomist framing” was a “dangerous new strain of crypto-denialism” that would “lead us down the very same path of inaction as outright climate change denial”. An essay published on OpenDemocracy argues that the paper is an example of “climate doomism” that “relies heavily on misinterpreted climate science”.”

            I love being right.

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              You don’t even know my approach so any comparisons you’ve made are invalid. Imagine having the ego to declare yourself right while being so wilfully ignorant.

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                Bahahahha prove me wrong asshole. I have an ego because I work fucking hard to solve these problems and you’re sitting here whining. I’d love for you to school me on the right perspective, the guy actively putting in the elbow grease. I’m all ears (eyes), and so is everyone reading.

                You know why we don’t cite people like you when we publish? Because you’re fucking wrong. Isn’t that hilarious?

                Edit: yes, it’s hilarious how we don’t care about your opinion.

                Edit 2: if you didn’t get it, I’m calling you out to explain to me why I’m wrong on my position here (whatever you think it is). I’m patiently waiting for you to explain why I, and my colleagues, who work tirelessly to come up with solutions to today’s preeminent problems like climate change, are wrong, and you’re right. I can’t wait :) scholars around the world will be flabbergasted at your fucking brilliance.

                Edit 3: ok ok, they’ve had enough. They clearly can’t respond with anything else, it’s been far too long, and I’ve beaten them into submission. I’ll take the win. Lesson learned? Science is for the adults in the room, not whatever bullshit you claim to be.

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                  Lmfao, how pathetic and fragile is that ego that you not only wrote all that but made 3 consecutive edits all because you have nothing better to do with your life, while you were on here trying to flex your ego I spent the last 16 hours fixing the world. Prove me wrong.

                  Thanks for the free rent.

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                    Aw I feel so sad now, so sad, aw. Bitch and whine more.

                    I guess some doomers are beyond help… They’d rather be part of the problem than the solution of the issues they claim to care so much about. I mean, honestly, what could possibly have happened that helped anyone, even average people, since the 30s except short grain wheat, discovery of DNA, polio vaccine, pap smears, insulin, stem cells, the transistor, and gee… Civil rights. All done by people just like these kind folk I’m conversing with here I imagine.