How much is that recusal worth to you?
Is it, say, “new RV” worth it? Or perhaps, maybe it’s “buy my mother a house” worth it?
Clarence is for sale, so let the bidding begin!
Unfortunately a regular American so I can only offer him about $3.50.
… You know on closer inspection I can’t help but notice that for an American you’re about 8 stories tall and look to be from the paleolithic era…
DAMNIT NESSIE GET OFF LEMMY!
You caught me!
Easy there money bags
Well it was about that time when I noticed that Clarence Thomas was about 8 stories tall and not a Supreme Court Judge after all, but the Lochness monster!
the court is openly, blatantly corrupt. I see no reason that should stop for this case in particular. being said, I also see no reason they would rule in favor of trump. he made a mistake that not many power brokers survive: he’s depending on favors he’s done for the justices in the past in getting them nominated rather than on what he can do for them in the future, and he’s essentially said out loud that he’s gonna consolidate all power including theirs in the office of PotUS if elected again. They’ll let him coup us, but I don’t think they’ll let him coup them and I highly doubt they’ll declare the president completely above the law while the sitting president is a democrat.
I highly doubt they’ll declare the president completely above the law while the sitting president is a democrat.
I’m imagining a scenario where they do that and then Biden immediately orders drive strikes on the Republican justices, because why the hell not?
One-way tickets to Guantanamo for everyone!
I highly doubt they’ll declare the president completely above the law while the sitting president is a democrat.
That wouldn’t stop them because they know that good is dumb.
It wouldn’t stop them then, but the question remains: when will then be now?
Soon.
I honestly don’t think the more recent “conservative” additions save gorsich actually would care if he did. They’d ride off rich into the sunset as “prestigious” SCOTUS members.
if they were gonna retire rich on billionaire donor money they would have already done it. look at Corrupt Clarence: as long as he’s sitting on the bench he can count on thousand dollar/day vacations and he knows that. As soon as he has nothing to offer his billionaire owners they’ll pull up stakes and move on the bribing the next justice.
The way current day
briberypolitical connections work is that you work on someone’s behalf and then when you’re done working in government you get a position as a board member, director position, whatever, from the people you helped profit so they can give you a gigantic salary as compensation for your favors for them without the government being able to do anything about it. I don’t think any politician stays in the game for the free trips.with scotus it seems like they don’t ever bother with the veil of delayed rewards anymore. someone gives a justice a pile of money, that justice rules in their favor, and as long as neither of them says “hey, that pile of money is definitely to buy rulings and not as a gift freely given to someone who just happens to have the final say in the law of the land” then no one can ‘prove’ bribery. the fact is at this point they’re mocking us openly.
sitting president is a democrat
That would matter if the sitting president had some conviction beyond the status quo. He doesn’t, and if they declare Trump is above the law, Biden will staunchly refuse to take advantage of that power…because, reasons.
The D’s inaction is what got us here. I don’t expect that to change in the next 12 months.
there’s an inherent conflict in democrats where they want to be politicians while appearing to be above politics and what it ends up meaning is abandoning any position that’s challenged by the opposition as “political”, “divisive” or “agenda-driven”. they’re rich, coddled cowards.
with that being said, I feel like in most cases Rs are politically adroit enough to pull the ladder up behind them even when they don’t think Ds will bother trying to climb it.
I’m sure he’ll get right on that.
His wife was involved in Jan 6th.
If he doesn’t, democracy is dead. Even if he votes against trump. Legitimacy is gone.
There is no democracy, Hilary got more votes in 2016.
This is how our constitution works tho. He’s talking about the institutions that make up our specific democracy
Call it what you will, just don’t call it democracy when the will of the minority is exerted on the majority.
My dude the USA is a representative democracy.
That’s the way that kind of government sometimes functions, which is why we need strong institutions.
It is not representative tho. I learned in school that a principle of democracy is the equal vote. Each vote counts the same. In the USA each vote counts for a random amount and the people actually electing the president are not even bound to the election results. With the supreme court being this openly corrupt the path to a dictatorship is not that far off.
I learned in school that a principle of democracy is the equal vote.
In a direct democracy, this is true. In a representative democracy, this is not.
In the USA each vote counts for a random amount
It isn’t random, and the amount is absolutely gamed in favor of a certain party, which is, again, why we need strong institutions.
The president isn’t voted on as part of the representatives, the office of the president is a separate vote and is supposed to be a direct vote. But the number of electors for each state has not kept up with each state’s population, which has fucked up the power of presidential votes.
Normalize saying “Republicans” instead of “a certain party”
Gore got more votes in 2000. Our democracy has been a shambling corpse for a long time.
Americans all like, we brought democracy to the developing world! Y’all don’t have democracy at home, chill.
Americans: We want democracy!
Mom: We have democracy at home.
Democracy at home:
Democracy just means that the power ultimately rests in the hands of the people. The fact that we vote for our representatives, meaning it’s ultimately up to us, makes us a democracy. The electoral system is not contradictory to a democracy.
Voting is necessary but not sufficient for a democracy.
Please expand.
FPTP voting allows a candidate who is highly unpopular by any measure to win over a more popular candidate. Single-member districts allow a party to win a fraction of seats in a legislature that is vastly greater than the fraction of the population who voted for them. Bullshit like the Electoral College just straight up counts some votes more than others.
That’s just the stuff that’s above board. With gerrymandering, voter suppression, and just plain rigging the vote, anything is possible.
The fact that there are flaws in our democracy does not make it not a democracy.
There are essentially only 4 forms of government, based on the ultimate source of power:
- Autocracy - an individual
- Oligarchy - a few
- Democracy - the people
- Anarchy - no one
Even in the case where there are flaws, ultimately the power resides in the people. If we all banded together and voted for someone who would get rid of gerrymandering and the FPTP voting system, and all that BS, we could make it happen. Which means we are still a democracy.
At some point a democracy is so flawed it stops being a democracy in any meaningful sense. The stuff I mentioned exists on a spectrum that includes “democracy” in Russia. They have votes but nobody thinks they have democracy. Hence my original comment.
The said I mentioned exists on a spectrum that includes “democracy” in Russia. They have votes but nobody thinks they have democracy. Hence my original comment.
Spoiler alert: He won’t.
I mean, of course! His own wife was one of the co-conspirators!
What about the 3 people on the court who owe their cushy lifetime gig to him, though? The ones whose legal bribes still depend on his rabid following approving of them? Does anyone really think that they don’t have a conflict of interest?
Btw, that Newsweek fairness meter? By conflating left-right political views with fairness, it ironically reinforces the common misconception that a centrist perspective equals fairness, incentivising any reporter of theirs who cares about the meter to adopt a centrist point of view, thus making their reporting less fair and objective.
Luckily the three on the court already don’t actually owe him shit. I don’t have a lot of faith in them, but once on the court, they will be there forever, no matter what the orange poo ball says or does.
The orange garbage can may think they’ll be loyal to him, but we all know that loyalty only works one way with him.
Again my faith in these three is lowwwwww, but it’s not a given that they rule in his favor.
Don’t underestimate the power of stochastic terrorism. They may not owe him anything, but they have a pretty good idea of what he’ll do if they rule against him. They’re corrupt, not stupid.
Nasty nicknames and accusations of disloyalty will be followed by imprecations for someone to rid him of these turbulent justices, and the next thing they know they’re facing some wacko with a baseball bat.
the three on the court already don’t actually owe him shit. I don’t have a lot of faith in them, but once on the court, they will be there forever, no matter what the orange poo ball says or does.
True, but you’re forgetting the millions if not tens or even hundreds of millions worth of various bribes go away if they’re no longer considered “loyal” to the Mango Mussolini.
They didn’t get to or near the top of those Federalist Society lists by NOT being corrupt as fuck, after all…
That’s a good point. I expect these organizations intend to outlast the orange shit stain so it’s just a matter of the winds of change blowing the other way, something which they have control over.
I expect these organizations intend to outlast the orange shit stain
Yeah they intend to, but they don’t yet know if they can. Just look at Kevin McCarthy acting all principled on January 7th when he thought it was finally over, only to come crawling back when it turned out that even treason wasn’t enough…
When has Clarence Thomas ever done the right thing? When do people think he will ever act properly under pressure?
POS won’t recuse. POS will write an opinion letting Cheeto chimp off the hook. My fingers crossed he’s in minority.
He won’t because he’s corrupt.
“Recuse yourself!”
“And if I don’t?”
“We’ll furrow our brows and be very concerned!”
He should retire. Sugar baby Clarence has zero integrity and shouldn’t be on any court.
*shouldn’t. Hopefully
Definitely a shouldn’t!
lol fuck you.
Clarence Thomas’s official statement in regards to this
I’m sure that giant shit stain will do the right thing
As if the Supreme Court had some sort of Code of Ethics or something.
Whateva! He does what he wans!
