• rauls4@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    If Hamas had not attacked and kidnapped citizens that would not have happened.

    • NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social
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      9 months ago

      Israel effectively declared war on Palestine in 1967 (more accurately in 1917, but that aside). From that point onward any action with a military or political goal taken by Palestinians against their oppressors is justified.

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        9 months ago

        Slaughtering civilians is never justified. What Hamas did was horrifying and a crime against humanity. But the reason why Hamas ever got so strong in the first place has a lot to do with how Isreal has systematically oppressed and killed Palestinians for decades. And the war it is waging now against the Palestinian people is also indefensible. It should be widely condemned, any support withdrawn and Israel should be sanctioned.

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          9 months ago

          What Hamas did was horrifying and a crime against humanity.

          The specifics of the attack, yeah. Any action that caused harm to civilians without a clear military goal absolutely must be prosecuted as a war crime/crime against humanity. But that doesn’t make the whole attack a terror attack, because it had a clear military goal and was staged against military and political targets, is what I’m trying to say.

          We need to be aware of the difference between “Hamas committed crimes against humanity on October 7th” and “the October 7th attack was a crime against humanity”.

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        9 months ago

        In my opinion raping women, mutilating them, even cutting off their breasts and playing with that (source) crosses a moral line.

        I despise violence and condemn both sides for the crimes they are committing.

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          9 months ago

          I never said otherwise. That’s why I said military or political goal. We absolutely should be condemning the rape and any other deliberate murder of innocents.