Counterpoint: A 17 year old kid without a fully formed brain shot into car, a horrific, vile act.
He spends 8 years, half of his life prior to his heinous act in prison.
Assuming the conservative position is not emotionally driven, looking at data and numbers, is the purpose of prison is to reform individuals to reintroduce them into society?
Additionally, it costs $106,000 a year to house inmates in the state. From a fiscal perspective it is in the best interest of the state to get prisoners rehabilitated and reintroduced to society, as well as reduce recidivism.
Preventing others from going to jail and knowing how to keep people from going back in, knowing how to get people out of jail is all in the best interest of all. Hiring this person, assuming they’re repentant and reformed, could prevent crime and do more to help society than if they just rot at $106k/year.
The purpose of prison is to keep dangerous people who are a detriment to society where they aren’t causing problems. This guy is a violent gang member who tried to kill 4 people. He has no place in society, let alone government.
And I agree, cost is an issue. And issue that’s easily solved without letting violent gang members continue to cause problems in society.
The purpose of prison is rehabilitation, and from the looks of your own article, he has been effectively rehabilitated into a working and functioning member of society.
Criminals are human too, committing a crime does not mean you are forever the same person.
This guy was an angry and violent kid who did something terrible for unknown reasons. He most certainly isn’t an angry kid anymore.
What he is now is a person who had 8 years to grow and change.
What’s important is how likely is this person to commit another crime after he’s changed by being in prison. If he has a low likelihood of reoffending then from a societal perspective it makes little sense to keep him in prison.
This perspective doesn’t address the revenge, punishment, or vengence aspect of incarnation which seems to be what you’re most concerned with.
The purpose of prison is to keep dangerous people who are a detriment to society where they aren’t causing problems.
The parole board came to the conclusion that he was at low risk of reoffending. You can disagree with that decision all you like but we shouldn’t be keeping people in prison if they are no longer a risk. You’re also not the one who looked at his prison record that is required to come to a decision.
Now I’m not a certified psychologist who is qualified to be on such a parole board, and most likely you’re not either. So I’m going to defer to the parole boards decision, because they’re the ones who are certified, qualified, and have his prison records on hand.
This guy is a violent gang member who tried to kill 4 people.
… when he was a kid, drunk, high, and influenced be the few (evil) people in his life that he trusted.
He has no place in society, let alone government.
Failing to give people a second chance is what causes people to reoffend. Prison should be rehabilitative, not punitive.
And issue that’s easily solved without letting violent gang members continue to cause problems in society.
So then what’s the solution? It costs a shit load of money to hold prisoners, and per capita we have the most prisoners out of any country.
Counterpoint: A 17 year old kid without a fully formed brain shot into car, a horrific, vile act.
He spends 8 years, half of his life prior to his heinous act in prison.
Assuming the conservative position is not emotionally driven, looking at data and numbers, is the purpose of prison is to reform individuals to reintroduce them into society?
Additionally, it costs $106,000 a year to house inmates in the state. From a fiscal perspective it is in the best interest of the state to get prisoners rehabilitated and reintroduced to society, as well as reduce recidivism.
Preventing others from going to jail and knowing how to keep people from going back in, knowing how to get people out of jail is all in the best interest of all. Hiring this person, assuming they’re repentant and reformed, could prevent crime and do more to help society than if they just rot at $106k/year.
Gonna stop you there, look where you are
The purpose of prison is to keep dangerous people who are a detriment to society where they aren’t causing problems. This guy is a violent gang member who tried to kill 4 people. He has no place in society, let alone government.
And I agree, cost is an issue. And issue that’s easily solved without letting violent gang members continue to cause problems in society.
The purpose of prison is rehabilitation, and from the looks of your own article, he has been effectively rehabilitated into a working and functioning member of society.
Criminals are human too, committing a crime does not mean you are forever the same person.
Bingo. As a conservative I want people rehabilitated and back into society as productive members of society.
If they can’t be rehabilitated then they stay in prison.
Prison shouldn’t be about punishment. It should be about protecting society.
This guy was an angry and violent kid who did something terrible for unknown reasons. He most certainly isn’t an angry kid anymore.
What he is now is a person who had 8 years to grow and change.
What’s important is how likely is this person to commit another crime after he’s changed by being in prison. If he has a low likelihood of reoffending then from a societal perspective it makes little sense to keep him in prison.
This perspective doesn’t address the revenge, punishment, or vengence aspect of incarnation which seems to be what you’re most concerned with.
The parole board came to the conclusion that he was at low risk of reoffending. You can disagree with that decision all you like but we shouldn’t be keeping people in prison if they are no longer a risk. You’re also not the one who looked at his prison record that is required to come to a decision.
Now I’m not a certified psychologist who is qualified to be on such a parole board, and most likely you’re not either. So I’m going to defer to the parole boards decision, because they’re the ones who are certified, qualified, and have his prison records on hand.
… when he was a kid, drunk, high, and influenced be the few (evil) people in his life that he trusted.
Failing to give people a second chance is what causes people to reoffend. Prison should be rehabilitative, not punitive.
So then what’s the solution? It costs a shit load of money to hold prisoners, and per capita we have the most prisoners out of any country.
You’re an idiot.
Hey, Q, unofficially, can you refrain from calling people names? Like three of your comments have been reported.
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