Kind of just felt like sparking a discussion thread and thought this might be an interesting one.
For me personally, one of, if not, my most controversial takes is that I will associate with anyone. Regardless of their opinions of if I personally find their opinions to be disgusting or revolting. I will give anyone respect who gives me respect.
Another one which I’ve expressed here before is that I do not think someone simply being a pedophile automatically makes them a pure evil child abuser who can’t help but rape every child that they see. And that some people can have this affliction and not actively seek out abusive content or attempt abusive actions.
My opinions on loli/shota/cub are also fairly controversial, but I imagine those are mostly shared by the majority of people here.
That should probably get us started pretty good!
So, What’s a controversial take that you have that most people would disagree with?
Feel free to have peaceful discussions about other people’s responses.
You know I actually hadn’t thought of that, that if you’re wired to like those things your choices are either to trust that some close friend group will accept and try to help you, or essentially endure the exile alone and (hopefully) you don’t crack. Shit is completely fucked. I know it’ll sound odd if i go like “that guy that’s sexually attracted to dogs is not so different from a bisexual or gay person” but at the end of the day that’s kinda…true. the only difference is that in one instance, the brain is wired to favor a consenting adult, and the other, unfortunately isn’t.
I wanna say it’s selective obliviousness, but maybe that’s not the right word. Exactly like the above. Again, I get it, it’s uncomfortable for people, but at the end of the day, both cub/shota/loli even guro and something like COD or Halo are fictional. If it’s actual child porn, then yeah, the majority of people will have a problem with it. Just like if actual war crimes or acts of terrorism were committed IRL and not in a game, most people’d understanably be up in arms about it–but, well, it’s not…it’s a drawing. I also think it’s just people’s weird double standards regarding sex and violence. You know how it is: Manhunt, the game where you’re brutally executing psychos in snuff films for your family’s freedom (never mind the fact the guy making you do this is getting off to it. off screen tho, so you only hear it), is a-ok according to Sony, but if a random anime girl has the audacity to even show a lil bit of skin, they start clutching pearls. It’s retarded IMO
It’s funny that you link it to popcorn, because that’s exactly what i compare it to. And nah, no spoon, I usually eat it in a cup so I don’t get my hands dirty (just careful so i don’t choke lol), but sometimes I eat it in a bowel. I never eat it for breakfast tho, just as a snack occasionally
Yeah, there are a few sites I’ve seen and heard from others where apparently they are supportive communities for those attracted to children who don’t advocate for abuse. But regardless, it’s a very difficult position to be in and definitely isn’t the solution for everyone.
I think you’re right about it being selective obliviousness. I’m personally someone who is not a fan of graphic depictions of violence, I’d never try to say that violent video games cause school shootings or anything. Because I can understand that even though I am not a fan of the content, the content is harmless, regardless of how I feel about it. A lot of that stuff from companies like Sony is completely performative. Sony is the company who owns Funimation (now Crunchyroll) who has dubbed a lot of shows which include lolis depicted in sexual or sexually suggestive situations and sold it to the masses. Haganai, Valkyrie Drive: Mermaid are 2 examples I can think of. Major companies like that are hypocrites of the highest caliber.
Yeah, I don’t eat personally, but I was just thinking of someone eating a bag of popcorn, but instead of popcorn it was cereal. xD It’s a pretty silly image to imagine, but like, why not? I can’t see any real reason as to why it would be a bad idea, except I guess the potential choking risk. Speaking of, is that hard to manage? I would assume it’d be fairly easy to manage, though I’m not sure as I lack the fundamental experience to get a good idea.
That and there’s always a chance that a place meant to help and heal something like that is well, misused. I imagine it’s a helluva tightrope to walk
Yup. I love me my violent games and horror movies, not ashamed of playing or watching risque anime (but, I’d never cross ecchi/hentai stuff with violence. Too much for me. Regular violence, cool, extreme sexual violence, not my thing. The only exception is when Silent Hill does it, but even then…it’s Silent Hill, you kinda expect to be grossed out), but then again, you saw my first post…so you can imagine my frustration when i see hypocracy like that (we’re not even gonna get into the topic of Crunchy starting out as a anime pirating site, and then the second they could, they started demonizing piracy even if some had legit reasons to do so. that makes my blood boil even tho it probably shouldn’t) instead of the, to me, logical conclusion of “Hey, they’re both fake, and at the end of the day sex is more normal than ripping a guy’s spinal cord out, maybe we shouldn’t be so trigger happy”.
Depends on the cereal. If it’s flakes and they’re pretty crushed it’s not so bad to waterfountain or just chug (or well, not chug, exactly, just drop into your mouth), if it’s something like Reeses Puffs, it’s much easier to just grab them, but if you’re steady you can drop some in your mouth from the cup no problem. Never had a problem doing it personally
Oh, the moderation on that sort of website is a Herculean task I would never want to even attempt.
I also hate hypocrasy like that, piracy sites demonizing piracy the second they get enough illicit funds to somehow go legit. I don’t even know how this happens, like how did crunchyroll get anime companies to go with them after being a literal piracy site for years? I just, you’d assume they’d tell crunchyroll to go gargle foot water. But somehow they’re like “Yeah, you’ve been illegally making profit off our works for years now, let’s do business!” like…huh? I don’t get it.
I definitely agree though, fiction is fiction, reality is reality, let’s make a point of keeping it that way. There’s no real benefit to the alternative anyway, imagine a world where loli/shota/cub is treated the same as actual genuine CP. Alright, now a guy gets arrested for possession of child pornography. Nobody cares because now that could mean the guy was a certified kid diddler or kid diddle enjoyer… or… he just so happened to look at a drawing which he forgot to carbon date the paper it was drawn on beforehand. Not to mention it’s allocating valuable resources to individuals who aren’t doing anything to harm anyone. Resources which could be used to help actual kids.
Lol, now i’m just imagining you opening a cereal box and just dumping the contents into your mouth, like someone drinking straight out of the milk carton.
Yeah, those guys are doing a thankless job, but one that’s worth it IMO
That imagined scenerio, i think I have heard about someone getting charged with CP because they found an explicit Loli H Manga when they were searching his house for substances. Could have been bullshit, but I honestly wouldn’t be that surprised.
Hey now, I’m not that much of a savage lol
To my knowledge In the U.S. at least, there’s been no cases of a guy getting charged for possession of CP simply for possession loli/shota/cub content. All cases that involve fictional content which have actually been charged, included possession of the genuine article. However, in oppressive countries like Canada, The UK, Australia etc… I wouldn’t be surprised if such stories were found to be true. They’re really big on criminalizing thought, speech and expression over there.
My wife would totally be that much of a savage. xD
Reminds me of this. I don’t know the details but he 100% had CP with him and they took these pics to humiliate him lmao (NSFW warning)
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The getty images logo really makes this.
It wasn’t in the US, I believe it was a European country, but i heard about it a long, long time ago.
To eat cereal without milk and chugging it straight from the box? Lmao
I could see it happening in certain countries in the EU, yeah, but most of them outright legalize loli/shota/cub, so it’d depend.
Yeah, she’s totally the type to chug cereal from the box with no milk as a snack. xD
Australia. No, really.
Yep, there’s a few countries who are retarded like this. Australia, UK, Canada, there’s definitely a few who do it, despite it doing nothing but genuinely waste resources and money. Those countries are at a race to the bottom imho, they want to see who can remove the most human rights the fastest.
I vaguely remember reading about some organization that actually fabricated charges of CP against individuals/groups they didn’t like, and then pretend to “lose” their evidence and drop it… once the court of public opinion had destroyed their target.
It wouldn’t be the least bit surprised. You see this a lot with men falsely accused of rape. They’ll get a shitload of news coverage claiming that they’re guilty and sealing their fate. Then after they’ve already had their life essentially ruined, it comes out that they hadn’t done anything wrong, but the damage has been done. Not to mention that those same news outlets do nothing to correct the falsehoods they were spreading.
This is another case where all it does it detract from actual rapists and rape victims, and ofcourse do harm to innocent people.