Very simple. The only ideology being pushed here is the delusion that one country should be able to dictate the actions of another to placate the ego of an authoritarian leader. Implying Russia or China were forced into doing anything is some DARVO bullshit.
I mean, I agree in theory but in practice that’s not how the world works. We don’t live in an ideal world.
The US would never allow Canada to align with Russia against the US. Russia would never allow Ukraine to align with the US against Russia. China would never allow Taiwan to align with the US against China.
Ok good, I’m glad we’re able to find some common ground here. And here’s another bit of common ground I think we have:
If, the government of Canada decide it was in its best interest to align with Russia and that’s what the people of Canada wanted, and they tried to do this, and the US then said that Canada was rightfully part of its territory and it would prefer to use peaceful means of unification but would ultimately take Canada by any means necessary…I would stand right next to you, I’d be angry with you and call out the moral bankruptcy and how the US has no right to do that. I’d probably even influence the way I voted in my country.
But here’s the thing. That’s a hypothetical scenario for Canada. The people of Canada and their way of life is safe. Me, and my family here in Taiwan? Not so much. And that’s 100% because of the CCPs claim that they own us and will take us by any means. A claim they could revoke at any time.
The world isn’t perfect, no, but that won’t stop me from calling out this type of shit no matter who does it and it’s certainly paper thin cover to hide behind if you’re trying to justify that which you know cannot be morally defended.
Yeah true, that’s probably enough now that it’s starting to go in circles. I don’t know why but I’m still surprised that people could genuinely hold these views. Still, I always hope to learn something but ultimately it’s probably a waste of time.
Would be interested to read more about that if you have sources. Like I said, I’m not afraid to criticise the US but that is no excuse for the actions of others.
Russia’s red lines were primarily “no foreign intervention into Ukraine.” Considering that the US 4th Psychological Operations Group literally posted a video claiming that they organized and supported and “pulled the strings of” Euromaidan…
I recall people laughing at the US warning Ukraine that a Russian invasion was imminent.
In hindsight, it was imminent since they annexed Krimea almost 10 years ago.
Considering Russia’s red lines were made very clear (and were crossed), I’m not sure why anyone is surprised.
China’s red lines were also very clear, but then Pelosi decided to stomp right over them anyway.
It’s rather concerning how today we’re more concerned about protecting ideology than we are about maintaining world peace.
China doesn’t get to dictate what Taiwan does.
Russia doesn’t get to dictate what Ukraine does.
Very simple. The only ideology being pushed here is the delusion that one country should be able to dictate the actions of another to placate the ego of an authoritarian leader. Implying Russia or China were forced into doing anything is some DARVO bullshit.
The US gets to dictate what Canada does, though. We’ve had to put up with American bullshit for decades.
And they shouldn’t, as you as you said it’s bullshit. Same principle, just have the courage to be less selective about how you apply it
I mean, I agree in theory but in practice that’s not how the world works. We don’t live in an ideal world.
The US would never allow Canada to align with Russia against the US. Russia would never allow Ukraine to align with the US against Russia. China would never allow Taiwan to align with the US against China.
Same shit, different shitter.
Ok good, I’m glad we’re able to find some common ground here. And here’s another bit of common ground I think we have:
If, the government of Canada decide it was in its best interest to align with Russia and that’s what the people of Canada wanted, and they tried to do this, and the US then said that Canada was rightfully part of its territory and it would prefer to use peaceful means of unification but would ultimately take Canada by any means necessary…I would stand right next to you, I’d be angry with you and call out the moral bankruptcy and how the US has no right to do that. I’d probably even influence the way I voted in my country.
But here’s the thing. That’s a hypothetical scenario for Canada. The people of Canada and their way of life is safe. Me, and my family here in Taiwan? Not so much. And that’s 100% because of the CCPs claim that they own us and will take us by any means. A claim they could revoke at any time.
The world isn’t perfect, no, but that won’t stop me from calling out this type of shit no matter who does it and it’s certainly paper thin cover to hide behind if you’re trying to justify that which you know cannot be morally defended.
Don’t bother, it’s just a tankie shill posting bad faith arguments from a 1d all account.
Yeah true, that’s probably enough now that it’s starting to go in circles. I don’t know why but I’m still surprised that people could genuinely hold these views. Still, I always hope to learn something but ultimately it’s probably a waste of time.
The US is literally funding the right-wing party in Canada to be more conservative, more extreme, less secular, and more friendly to US interests.
We can’t do ANYTHING about it. We’re already America’s removed.
Would be interested to read more about that if you have sources. Like I said, I’m not afraid to criticise the US but that is no excuse for the actions of others.
The only way to not have crossed Russia’s supposed red lines would have been for Ukraine to never exist in the first place.
No matter what was done Putin would have found some way to justify his invasion.
Russia’s red lines were primarily “no foreign intervention into Ukraine.” Considering that the US 4th Psychological Operations Group literally posted a video claiming that they organized and supported and “pulled the strings of” Euromaidan…
Tankie you for sharing your opinion. Always love to hear the latest take on geopolitics from a brand new account.
It’s tankie to… Want to avoid war? Damn.
It’s rather concerning how today we’re more concerned about protecting ideology than we are about maintaining world peace.
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Agreed.