• dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world
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    Yeah quite a large portion of lemmings are politically insane. It’s either ‘burn the rich, overthrow the government’ or ‘Maybe the windmill party has a valid point’

    Like why can’t people just be chill and get along

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      Hey now, don’t go lumping “eat the rich” in with these crazies. I can hate tankies and hate our growing wealth inequalities

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          God that would be a depressing thought. Thankfully, a tankie’s idea of communism is in fact not the only solution, we need only look at democratic socialist countries like Denmark.

          I think it’s fine for people to be rich. I don’t think it’s fine for that to be at the expense of the poor to such a ridiculous magnitude that the wealth has long become moot for that individual’s quality of life:

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              Thanks for the sauce! The Nordic argument gets used far too often by center-leftists in the core imperial countries because they already assume a level of available wealth which can only be sustained by the exploitation of the colonized rest of the world.

              The greed of the rich will never be sated. They may retreat or bide their time but they will come back for more, until they have sucked every drop of your blood.

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            Just wanted to point out that Denmark is a Social Democracy, not Democratic Socialist. The vast majority of the economy is fully Capitalist, paying for Social Programs isn’t Socialism, Worker Ownership of the Means of Production is.

            If you want to argue for Social Democracy, go for it, but don’t pretend it’s actually Socialism.

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            Denmark

            Only communists in the US are calling for nationalization of oil. About 75% of Denmark’s oil is nationalized and lets them fund social programs. Liberals in the US would never accept that.

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      Well, the people “being chill and getting along” (i.e. just keeping the status quo going) is nowadays supporting a genocide,so…

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        Right on brother. All those tankies supporting genocidal terrorists who put a mandate for genocide in their founding charter and then killed over a thousand peaceful civilians in a neighboring country in one day. It’s unbelievable that people would support a group that’s been verified by multiple international forensics teams to have beheaded children as young as three months old in front of their families. You’re talking about those people right? Right?

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            “Even if all the true stuff you said about genocidal terrorists that’s been verified by multiple unbiased sources online that I could easily find is true, is it really genocide my man?”

            Are you people for real? Or are you just Putin cocksuckers posting online trying to make far-right fascists look more appealing than they really are?

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              Baby, I asked you if some people doing bad stuff justifies genocide as retaliation in your mind. It’s not a difficult question.

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                Oh, then you should have fucking said that instead of trying to be coy and pretend that Hamas didn’t do any of that.

                Of course genocide is wrong. I’m not any edgy piece of shit who lives in their mother’s basement and tries to revise the history of genocidal maniacs. And of course, what Israel is doing isn’t genocide. Crimes against humanity? Yeah, some of it is. Overreacting? I’m not so sure given the past century of context (i.e. peace deals being turned down or used as a means to actually try and genocide Israel).

                Going back to your original question though, do you think anything Israel has done justifies the genocidal actions of Hamas? Or did they “have it coming”?

                Crazy how tankies can’t have any consistent logic or morality.

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                  Not a tankie and many independent and respected experts on the subject of genocide said that Israel is commiting genocide

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                    It’s insane how far people are willing to go to justify Israeli genocide. You’re fighting a thankless battle. You have way more patience than me.

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                  How is turning Gaza into a concentration camp and bombing everyone indiscriminately, including refugee outposts and hospitals, until none are left, not a genocide?

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                    Oh, that would be genocide. But that’s not what’s happening. Do you get all of your “news” from TikTok influencers and Hamas? Personally, I am immediately skeptical of anything from sources like Jerusalem Post and check for multiple corroborating sources before I run around telling people something has happened. Maybe you should do the same?

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      Like why can’t people just be chill and get along

      I think the hurtling toward climate crises has a lot of people desperate for governments to actually do something to help assuage it, not make it worse.

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      Well put! I love this place and have had some good discussions but I’ve also seen a lot of teenage political craziness and had that “oh, I’m talking to a lunatic or a child” sensation more often than I’d have liked to.

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      I suspect we needed a baseline level of insane to not just threaten to jump Reddit, but actually follow through on it.