I’m not in any way defending the Moscow Trials or the Great Purge, but the reasoning behind Stalin’s Great Purge was to eliminate counter revolutionaries and solidify his own power so that he may continue the path to Communism, in his eyes and the eyes of the party.
Even if he was targeting different ethnicities just because of the risk they could’ve been spies, what he effectively did was put a different “value” on his citizens, which is the opposite of social equality, a center aspect of leftism.
Maybe in his and his followers’ minds the end justified the means and he was actually aiming to build a better society for everyone, but ultimately what he did was enact racism and social hierarchies. If that still counts as left-wing to you we have different definitions.
Do you believe that every single action one must do be perfectly in line with leftist ideas to be a leftist? Is it not possible to commit evil for the purposes of, in their minds, securing the chances for achieving Socialism and Communism?
Stalin, by and large, was a leftist that was dedicated to the cause of achieving Communism. He was also a cruel, evil brute, who cared little for the Means of achieving it.
I prefer to recognize evil leftists to learn from them and their mistakes so as not to repeat them.
Do you believe that every single action one must do be perfectly in line with leftist ideas to be a leftist? Is it not possible to commit evil for the purposes of, in their minds, securing the chances for achieving Socialism and Communism?
If an action has such a big impact and such little payoff as the ethnic cleansing in the great purge, I think that disqualifies you from actually being a leftist.
By that reasoning, even christian fundamentalists would be leftists: they want everyone to believe in god and adhere to their teachings so that we can all be at peace for eternity in heaven. But if what they’re doing to achieve it is Crusades, discrimination and antagonizing progress, the end result isn’t worth it (especially since, like with the great purge, there’s no guarantee all this suffering will actually bring results).
And we can learn from the mistakes of people even if we don’t think they align with our political stance, me considering Stalin a leftist or not doesn’t change my opinion on what he’s done.
I’m not in any way defending the Moscow Trials or the Great Purge, but the reasoning behind Stalin’s Great Purge was to eliminate counter revolutionaries and solidify his own power so that he may continue the path to Communism, in his eyes and the eyes of the party.
Still evil, still leftist.
Even if he was targeting different ethnicities just because of the risk they could’ve been spies, what he effectively did was put a different “value” on his citizens, which is the opposite of social equality, a center aspect of leftism.
Maybe in his and his followers’ minds the end justified the means and he was actually aiming to build a better society for everyone, but ultimately what he did was enact racism and social hierarchies. If that still counts as left-wing to you we have different definitions.
Do you believe that every single action one must do be perfectly in line with leftist ideas to be a leftist? Is it not possible to commit evil for the purposes of, in their minds, securing the chances for achieving Socialism and Communism?
Stalin, by and large, was a leftist that was dedicated to the cause of achieving Communism. He was also a cruel, evil brute, who cared little for the Means of achieving it.
I prefer to recognize evil leftists to learn from them and their mistakes so as not to repeat them.
If an action has such a big impact and such little payoff as the ethnic cleansing in the great purge, I think that disqualifies you from actually being a leftist.
By that reasoning, even christian fundamentalists would be leftists: they want everyone to believe in god and adhere to their teachings so that we can all be at peace for eternity in heaven. But if what they’re doing to achieve it is Crusades, discrimination and antagonizing progress, the end result isn’t worth it (especially since, like with the great purge, there’s no guarantee all this suffering will actually bring results).
And we can learn from the mistakes of people even if we don’t think they align with our political stance, me considering Stalin a leftist or not doesn’t change my opinion on what he’s done.