• helenslunch@feddit.nl
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    1 year ago

    Isn’t it strange how the US has had formidable firearms freedoms for >200 years but mass shootings only became commonplace some ~30 years ago?

    Doesn’t Canada have better access to mental healthcare?

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        1 year ago

        That wasn’t his argument at all.

        He said that we have had guns for 200 years but mass shootings only became common in the last 30.

        So for 170 years we have no mass shootings. Then for 30 we have them.

        So what changed?

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          Culture, politics, financial well being, careers, but also allowing the assault weapons ban to lapse in 2004.

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            Violent crime has actually decreased since that assault weapons ban ended.

            Assault weapons were also still available to buy with high capacity magazines DURING the ban. It was completely ineffective actually.

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      1 year ago

      This was made in 1881 a few months after the assassination of James Garfield

      Mass shootings weren’t commonplace, but the talking points sure were

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        How many fully automatic weapons do you think are used in mass shootings?

        The answer is zero. This is the problem. You people want to regulate things you don’t understand.

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            Sad scenario but I would not consider this a mass shooting. This was fallout from a robbery attempt.

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              And this shooting displayed that the common police equipment of the time (pistols, shotguns) were ineffective against determined and well equipped criminals. Police wanted handy, precise rifles (AR-15), and better armour for themselves and vehicles in case of emergency.

              So the police looked to relatively cheap mil surplus and things that were compatible with them, fast forward a few decades and that is why the police have a ton of military grade gear.

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        I don’t know who needs to hear this but fully automatic weapons (1 trigger press=many bullets until the trigger is released) are not used in mass shootings.

        Semi automatic weapons (1 trigger press=1 bullet) are and a majority of guns used in crime and defense belong in this category. I know some people get annoyed because it’s seen as nitpicking but even if you are anti gun you need to understand guns enough to make a coherent argument. I recommend having someone you trust take you to a range if you can.

        But yeah imagine a group of government officials wanted to regulate cell phones but constantly said tablets like the words are interchangable. Then they start using vague terms like “smart screens” all the time like it means one very particular thing. You see what I mean.