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In my opinion this is actually better than the CoC. The only thing “missing” is the definition of which qualities you shouldn’t discriminate against. But that’s now generalized into “groups of people”.
I still can’t discriminate against people based on any qualification. Hell, I technically can’t discriminate against “pineapple on pizza eaters”.
I think you can’t read it too literally. Otherwise you also can’t discriminate against “people who wrote their comment later” and so you can never stop reading the comments for fear of discriminating between “early comment writers” and “late comment writers”.
I just replied this to another commenter, but that’s a bad faith argument. The ToS also says to not engage in illegal activity. The admonishment of Nazi’s and Racists is an admonishment of illegal evil.
Uh, the US has vetoed multiple attempts by the UN to condemn the glorification of Nazis. I hate to break it to you, but Nazis and racists are not illegal.
By my reading of it, you can still discriminate against pineapple pizza eaters, or any other group whatsoever, you just can’t harass, bully, violate their privacy or threaten them with violence. Which is fine by me, if someone wants to make a community only for ginger haired people and ban anyone they think isn’t naturally ginger, that’s their perogative.
That was my takeaway, too, and I think it’s positive. The nice thing is, if it turns out that the policy fosters behavior that’s bad for the broader community, they can change it.
Of course we would, and that’s also exactly why we invited users to discuss and provide feedback while launching it. It is a living document, and we hope to update and improve it periodically and consistently.
Some people have given you guys a lot of flack, but I really think you’re making a thoughtful, good faith effort to do things right, and I think you’re doing well. There have been a couple things that I thought were the wrong decision, but (1) they’ve been relatively minor, and (2) they’ve been reasonable even if I might have chosen differently. I very much appreciate the thought that goes into running this place.
Thank you. I appreciate your sincere response, and I can assure you the rest of our team will too. Differences in decisions may naturally occur, of course, but I think being able to reason things is what matters in the end. Here’s wishing you a great one.
Got it. Transphobia and racism are the same as memes about eating pineapple pizza. Might as well make a joke about how your pronouns are Real/Awesome and all the other stupid bullshit.
Well, at least this indicates that removing that text was not an accident or an oversight. And it is good to know where lemmy.world’s admins actually stand.
That’s a bad faith argument. The ToS also says to not engage in illegal activity. The admonishment of Nazi’s and Pedophiles is an admonishment of illegal evil.
Your inclusion of Republicans is a bit of an extreme juxtaposition. Feel free to admonish the individual evil views of Republicans, but to discriminate against Republicans purely for their association is rightly against ToS.
In my opinion this is actually better than the CoC. The only thing “missing” is the definition of which qualities you shouldn’t discriminate against. But that’s now generalized into “groups of people”.
I still can’t discriminate against people based on any qualification. Hell, I technically can’t discriminate against “pineapple on pizza eaters”.
I love some pineapple pizza!
Some day we will eradicate your kind
As it is worded you can’t discriminate against nazis and racists either.
You can discriminate all you want, you just can’t harass, bully, violate privacy or threaten violence.
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This is an ALT account of OP
Edit: @princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone can confirm
Can confirm.
Edit: Wild they keep making the same 4-5 usernames on multiple instances. That account name was on Blahaj last I saw it.
I think you can’t read it too literally. Otherwise you also can’t discriminate against “people who wrote their comment later” and so you can never stop reading the comments for fear of discriminating between “early comment writers” and “late comment writers”.
Literal is the only way these things are supposed to be read.
They could easily fix it by saying “groups (except for those that promote discrimination and/or hate such as nazis and racists)”
I just replied this to another commenter, but that’s a bad faith argument. The ToS also says to not engage in illegal activity. The admonishment of Nazi’s and Racists is an admonishment of illegal evil.
Being a Nazi is not illegal in most jurisdictions. It certainly wasn’t illegal in Nazi Germany.
Bruh I hate to break this to you but nearly all governments are racist. Have you not heard of what the US did to black people for 300 years?
Uh, the US has vetoed multiple attempts by the UN to condemn the glorification of Nazis. I hate to break it to you, but Nazis and racists are not illegal.
By my reading of it, you can still discriminate against pineapple pizza eaters, or any other group whatsoever, you just can’t harass, bully, violate their privacy or threaten them with violence. Which is fine by me, if someone wants to make a community only for ginger haired people and ban anyone they think isn’t naturally ginger, that’s their perogative.
That was my takeaway, too, and I think it’s positive. The nice thing is, if it turns out that the policy fosters behavior that’s bad for the broader community, they can change it.
Of course we would, and that’s also exactly why we invited users to discuss and provide feedback while launching it. It is a living document, and we hope to update and improve it periodically and consistently.
Some people have given you guys a lot of flack, but I really think you’re making a thoughtful, good faith effort to do things right, and I think you’re doing well. There have been a couple things that I thought were the wrong decision, but (1) they’ve been relatively minor, and (2) they’ve been reasonable even if I might have chosen differently. I very much appreciate the thought that goes into running this place.
Thank you. I appreciate your sincere response, and I can assure you the rest of our team will too. Differences in decisions may naturally occur, of course, but I think being able to reason things is what matters in the end. Here’s wishing you a great one.
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LOL the OP of this post is YOU. I remember the blahaj stuff. You had another alt, dronerights, too.
I like my pineapple pizzas with a bbq base 🤪 don’t come after me 😂
I’ll split that pizza with you.
True ;)
Got it. Transphobia and racism are the same as memes about eating pineapple pizza. Might as well make a joke about how your pronouns are Real/Awesome and all the other stupid bullshit.
Well, at least this indicates that removing that text was not an accident or an oversight. And it is good to know where lemmy.world’s admins actually stand.
Fucking clown shoes…
Nazis are a group of people. Republicans are a group of people. Pedophiles are a group of people.
That’s a bad faith argument. The ToS also says to not engage in illegal activity. The admonishment of Nazi’s and Pedophiles is an admonishment of illegal evil.
Your inclusion of Republicans is a bit of an extreme juxtaposition. Feel free to admonish the individual evil views of Republicans, but to discriminate against Republicans purely for their association is rightly against ToS.
Ok, Boomer.
We could do this for any group of people we don’t like IMO… Doesn’t make it right, regardless of how disgusting their actions may be ☹️
Kebab meat and pineapple, thin crust. I will fight to the death for that
Need some context here: is this what we removed, something that’s already somewhere else, a proposed replacement, or something else?
That paragraph is part of the new terms and conditions document they released.