I think that even though Hamas are trying to “destroy Israel” they’re really hurting Palestine way more in an indirect way, and this is why I hate them.
Moderate/secular palestinians everywhere. My first reaction to Hamas’ attacks was a comprehensive list of every ableist slur i know.
BUT: We’d do well to remember that Netanyahu and his coalition are the people that try to conflate Hamas with palestinian liberation. I hope it will cost them their power.
Nah it’s direct, Hamas can only get recruits by getting more Palestinians to hate israel
Launch a massive terrorist attack, provoke an even bigger terrorist response out of vengeance bloodthirst, voilà, instant recruitment drive just add war crimes
Hamas is the equal partner and willing collaborator to Netenyahu’s genocide of the Palestinian people.
You’re an absolute idiot if you think Hamas is anything more than a religious terrorism group. They do not and have never cared about the Palestinians at all beyond a recruitment pool.
Also ignoring the fact that massacreing innocent civilians, many of whom were actively pro Palestine, and raping any woman they find before killing them, is even remotely justified. It’s not justified when Israel does it, and it’s still not justified when Hamas does it back.
I mean it’s not like a bunch of Palestinians woke up one day and went “we should form a terrorist organization and kill a bunch of random people for no reason”. There’s been a long path to get here.
Please look into how Netanyahu has tried (successfully) to conflate Hamas and palestinian liberation. He and his like have supported Hamas to undermine the PLO, a secular organization, simply because Hamas is a more convenient enemy to face.
Please don’t fall for his propaganda and attempt to force all support for Palestine to go through Hamas.
I’m not? I’m not in favor of Hamas, lol. I’m just pointing out how ignorant 90% of the comments I read sound as if no one’s ever heard of an abused dog biting back.
Y’know when I read your earlier comment my first thought was “this guy thinks of us as nothing but dogs to sacrifice to whatever cause they’re on this week”, but then you literally came right out and made the comparison yourself.
Bougeyevik Fetishizers, easier shots to call than a physics demonstration.
Whatever that all is supposed to mean, I haven’t a clue. You murder people for decades and then make surprised Pikachu face when they murder back. Just silly.
Most people choose to side with either Israel or with Palestine. I chose not to side with anyone because both sides are doing wrong things, and both sides have innocent people that are dying because of this.
Hey look everyone it’s a fetishizer who thinks everything up to breaking into panic room vaults and dragging the actively not participating occupants out to murder them in the streets is perfectly acceptable conduct when one of us global southers does it, because moral conduct is apparently white privilege to these racist shitbags.
What’s especially egregious is that these very same acts would be condemned in the harshest words possible if israel were doing them, and I know that because they are when israel does do those things. The act is what is immoral, not the people committing it, and not doing terrible shit is not some act of virtue signaling or privilege, it’s the default state of action anyone who isn’t a fucking psychopath is capable of adhering to passively.
Well with that well informed and definitely not pulled out of your ass first sentence I’m sure to be convinced to continue reading your nuanced take on me as a person.
So because they have a fast growing population it’s ok to kill? them?? Like it’s not genocide if there are a lot of them? Think about what you’re saying. These are people, not cockroaches.
Look at these demographics (go to Gaza). As of 2018 most of the population wasn’t even 18. What do you think that does to a people?
Who’s saying it’s ok to kill? I’m pointing out the fact there’s not a genocide happening, no peoples are being wiped out - the numbers prove that clearly.
They need guidance not bombs. For years Hamas has used aid to build bombs. To the point where the UN has limited funding to the territory. I’m positive that once Hamas has been destroyed, they will receive the guidance they need and deserve. Until then, just more bombs.
I sit on a 1st world sofa, but I try not to teach people on what to do when being bombed.
In the basque country the nazi army was invited by the dictator to peacefully bomb Gernika. Franco’s next in charge had to go. We had the resources to do it, but Palestine or Hamas don’t have the military capability to depose that zionist gvt.
it is an offense teaching suffering … from your 1st world sofa.
I sit on a 1st world sofa, but I try not to teach people on what to do when being bombed.
proceeds to try to teach about suffering and what should be allowed to be done from a 1st world sofa
So in other words, a hypocrite by your own account.
Hamas is a terrorist group. Stop defending terrorists. You can argue for Palestinian rights without defending terrorists and terrorist acts. Fighting against an oppressor is not the same as killing civilians at a music festival.
Its really scary how many people dont get this. What Isreal is doing is fucking terrible, but what happened at the music festival and surrounding area was also atrocious. Its mindblowing that so many people not immediately affected by those events cant see that BOTH things are awful, those immediately impacted, completely understandable that they cant and wont see nuance, the rest of the world? Yeesh
I think that even though Hamas are trying to “destroy Israel” they’re really hurting Palestine way more in an indirect way, and this is why I hate them.
No offense to either country though.
My first thought after the initial visceral reaction was “we really need to get Hamas out of there”
Moderate/secular palestinians everywhere. My first reaction to Hamas’ attacks was a comprehensive list of every ableist slur i know.
BUT: We’d do well to remember that Netanyahu and his coalition are the people that try to conflate Hamas with palestinian liberation. I hope it will cost them their power.
Nah it’s direct, Hamas can only get recruits by getting more Palestinians to hate israel
Launch a massive terrorist attack, provoke an even bigger terrorist response out of vengeance bloodthirst, voilà, instant recruitment drive just add war crimes
Hamas is the equal partner and willing collaborator to Netenyahu’s genocide of the Palestinian people.
Damn.
So they were not really hurt before?
They’ve definitely been hurt before, but this time is definitely the cruelest in decades.
Hamas cares about their own power. Not Palestinians.
I knew they had to be exploiting. But I guess I can blame the Israeli gov for that as well.
Yes actually, Netanyahu has been known to support Hamas and suppress liberal democratic parties. It’s not even a secret.
I have a loss of words right now.
Good god centrists should just never open their mouths. Should they just allow Israel to finish the genocide quietly? Would that be better for you?
You’re an absolute idiot if you think Hamas is anything more than a religious terrorism group. They do not and have never cared about the Palestinians at all beyond a recruitment pool.
Also ignoring the fact that massacreing innocent civilians, many of whom were actively pro Palestine, and raping any woman they find before killing them, is even remotely justified. It’s not justified when Israel does it, and it’s still not justified when Hamas does it back.
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I mean it’s not like a bunch of Palestinians woke up one day and went “we should form a terrorist organization and kill a bunch of random people for no reason”. There’s been a long path to get here.
Please look into how Netanyahu has tried (successfully) to conflate Hamas and palestinian liberation. He and his like have supported Hamas to undermine the PLO, a secular organization, simply because Hamas is a more convenient enemy to face.
Please don’t fall for his propaganda and attempt to force all support for Palestine to go through Hamas.
I’m not? I’m not in favor of Hamas, lol. I’m just pointing out how ignorant 90% of the comments I read sound as if no one’s ever heard of an abused dog biting back.
Y’know when I read your earlier comment my first thought was “this guy thinks of us as nothing but dogs to sacrifice to whatever cause they’re on this week”, but then you literally came right out and made the comparison yourself.
Bougeyevik Fetishizers, easier shots to call than a physics demonstration.
Whatever that all is supposed to mean, I haven’t a clue. You murder people for decades and then make surprised Pikachu face when they murder back. Just silly.
Centrists are the ones most likely to want peace between the two sides, instead of a most likely bloody victory of one over the other.
Nah, centrists are people that know jack shit about anything but automatically agree with whatever the most people are saying.
Most people choose to side with either Israel or with Palestine. I chose not to side with anyone because both sides are doing wrong things, and both sides have innocent people that are dying because of this.
Hey look everyone it’s a fetishizer who thinks everything up to breaking into panic room vaults and dragging the actively not participating occupants out to murder them in the streets is perfectly acceptable conduct when one of us global southers does it, because moral conduct is apparently white privilege to these racist shitbags.
What’s especially egregious is that these very same acts would be condemned in the harshest words possible if israel were doing them, and I know that because they are when israel does do those things. The act is what is immoral, not the people committing it, and not doing terrible shit is not some act of virtue signaling or privilege, it’s the default state of action anyone who isn’t a fucking psychopath is capable of adhering to passively.
Well with that well informed and definitely not pulled out of your ass first sentence I’m sure to be convinced to continue reading your nuanced take on me as a person.
Since Hamas came to power Gaza has one of the fastest growing populations in the world.
There is no genocide other than the one Hamas calls for against the Jews. It’s literally in their founding Charter if you care to read the document.
So because they have a fast growing population it’s ok to kill? them?? Like it’s not genocide if there are a lot of them? Think about what you’re saying. These are people, not cockroaches.
Look at these demographics (go to Gaza). As of 2018 most of the population wasn’t even 18. What do you think that does to a people?
They need guidance not bombs
Who’s saying it’s ok to kill? I’m pointing out the fact there’s not a genocide happening, no peoples are being wiped out - the numbers prove that clearly.
They need guidance not bombs. For years Hamas has used aid to build bombs. To the point where the UN has limited funding to the territory. I’m positive that once Hamas has been destroyed, they will receive the guidance they need and deserve. Until then, just more bombs.
Yes it is an offense teaching suffering palestinians from your 1st world sofa.
I’m from a third world country that has internet slower than 3G at times. And we don’t even have sofas where I’m from.
Also, despite the neutrality of our government about this issue, most people are protesting in solidarity with Palestine.
I gave you enough clues. I’m Moroccan.
touche.
I sit on a 1st world sofa, but I try not to teach people on what to do when being bombed.
In the basque country the nazi army was invited by the dictator to peacefully bomb Gernika. Franco’s next in charge had to go. We had the resources to do it, but Palestine or Hamas don’t have the military capability to depose that zionist gvt.
So they do what they can.
So in other words, a hypocrite by your own account.
Hamas is a terrorist group. Stop defending terrorists. You can argue for Palestinian rights without defending terrorists and terrorist acts. Fighting against an oppressor is not the same as killing civilians at a music festival.
Its really scary how many people dont get this. What Isreal is doing is fucking terrible, but what happened at the music festival and surrounding area was also atrocious. Its mindblowing that so many people not immediately affected by those events cant see that BOTH things are awful, those immediately impacted, completely understandable that they cant and wont see nuance, the rest of the world? Yeesh
It’s that kind of BBC-style cpt-ovbious argumentation that makes Gaza conflict endless.
At least I handle it straight, although I admit not knowing how to solve it.