Haven’t heard any “ten Hag out” voices yet, thankfully, but when do people start blaming him?

Yeah, injuries are bad, but that happens to all clubs. Are they trying too hard and forgetting the fundamentals, especially at defending? Lack of effort?

Why not put in the young guys? They’ll definitely give the required effort to impress.

I don’t know, I’m just pissed at my team.

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      What do they have to do with the performances and results? They don’t pick the team and tell them how to play.

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        their failure to manage to club leaves managers with a patchwork squad where players simply don’t fit together, remember Ole didn’t say much about the Glazers and how the club is run but he said one thing, Sancho was identified as a Right-winger of choice and when he arrived he told Ole he prefers playing on the left. that’s the kind of incompetence ETH is surrounded with.

        Last season was built on the defensive output of Case-Licha and Varane

        Casemiro has been simply not the same since his second red card and has been rather awful this season.

        Licha is out.

        he has no left-backs.

        one thing you can blame him for I guess is continuing to play Casemiro instead of putting Lindelof at LB and playing Maguire and Amrabat at 6.

        but the team is visibly mentally fragile as it has been for a long time.

        Honestly I am losing faith in even Bruno, I don’t remember him ever stepping up in a “big game” meaning a game with a lot of pressure, but I do remember him shouting at Dalot, Casemiro, Antony etc.

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          The team being mentally fragile is the manager’s problem though. It’s his job to create that confidence in the squad. If they believed in the system they wouldn’t capitulate as easy.

          Look I really want Ten Hag to work, but we seem to be the only fans in the world that deflect blame away from the manager until the situation is untenable.

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            I’d agree if this was a new phenomenon, the team has been capitulating for years now, it can’t be always the managers fault can it?

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              It’s not as simple as that. Multiple managers can fail in different ways, it could well be that we still haven’t found the right person to helm the club, it’s a ginormous job which requires a certain approach. There aren’t that many managers ever that have won the league with United.

              I’m not saying this is definitely the case, but I’m also not absolving Erik Ten Hag of all blame just based on the fact his predecessors also struggled. That’s not causal logic.

              It’s like saying Rishi Sunak isn’t shit because Cameron, May, Johnson and Truss also failed.

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                the issue is we are trying to find the one person to helm the club, football has long moved past that model and United should too, but while glazers are doing the appointments it’s not gonna happen.

                that’s just the reality of the situation shit rolls downhill.

                like what do yoh expect will happen if ETH gets sacked? we get a new manager, will he have the same tactics as ten hag? I doubt it, what willl we do with the players that were bought specifically to fit into ETH’s system?

                even if we get a new manager bounce and make into CL next season then what? next season the team will crumble under pressure again and we can rinse and repeat.