It’s not a symbol of oppressive upbringing unless the person wearing it feels that way. You don’t get to dictate someone else’s interpretation of meaning of their own clothes. -the left
agreed. but if some culture says you have no choice but to do something that another gender doesn’t and it becomes normalized to you to not have that choice, isn’t that at least worthy of a reconsideration once you leave that culture?
in a simpler abstraction, if a person grows up in a cult where it’s entirely normal and okay to them to obviously and regularly give up their power to another type of person in that culture to make a decision, would you consider casually talking to them about it, from a place of love and concern?
Yes, always question what you were taught. But it’s up to the individual to do that at their own pace.
It’s the same with religion. I expect everyone to question the one they were indoctrinated into, and I personally think everyone should leave, but everyone goes at their own pace.
Okay, that does make sense, I understand. I appreciate you for answering my honest question and not judging me for asking it in a way that may have seemed ignorant. I wish we could have more honest, unassuming political discussions like this these days.
The religious justification for those kinds of head coverings is literally sexist. Women shouldn’t show their hair because it sexually excites men when they see it, and it’s women’s job to be modest to prevent that. That’s oppressive. Can somebody associate other, non-oppressive ideas with the garment? I guess, but it’s sort of like trying to reappropriate a hate symbol. There’s not a lot of point in it, and people will reasonably assume you’re a conservative bigot.
It’s not a symbol of oppressive upbringing unless the person wearing it feels that way. You don’t get to dictate someone else’s interpretation of meaning of their own clothes. -the left
agreed. but if some culture says you have no choice but to do something that another gender doesn’t and it becomes normalized to you to not have that choice, isn’t that at least worthy of a reconsideration once you leave that culture?
in a simpler abstraction, if a person grows up in a cult where it’s entirely normal and okay to them to obviously and regularly give up their power to another type of person in that culture to make a decision, would you consider casually talking to them about it, from a place of love and concern?
Yes, always question what you were taught. But it’s up to the individual to do that at their own pace.
It’s the same with religion. I expect everyone to question the one they were indoctrinated into, and I personally think everyone should leave, but everyone goes at their own pace.
Okay, that does make sense, I understand. I appreciate you for answering my honest question and not judging me for asking it in a way that may have seemed ignorant. I wish we could have more honest, unassuming political discussions like this these days.
The religious justification for those kinds of head coverings is literally sexist. Women shouldn’t show their hair because it sexually excites men when they see it, and it’s women’s job to be modest to prevent that. That’s oppressive. Can somebody associate other, non-oppressive ideas with the garment? I guess, but it’s sort of like trying to reappropriate a hate symbol. There’s not a lot of point in it, and people will reasonably assume you’re a conservative bigot.