Now you know how conservatives felt when Big Tech fucked us over in 2020 and banned us all. Thoughts? Shall we momentarily share a group hug

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    1 year ago

    To be fair you are pretty aggressive saying everyone you disagree with is a far leftists… And the random trump cult stuff is weird I don’t get it… It’s like reading lemmygrad complaining about degenerate liberals.

    I wish you guys had a qanon community so I could read some deranged takes on stuff rather than like stuff about trans people… It gets old and repetitive pretty quick and is a weird thing to be obsessed with but you do you. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ Thanks for not showing up in every comment section complaining anymore hope you had a good healthy internet break.

    • Wigglehard@exploding-heads.comOPM
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      Thank you for your input and constructive criticism. I’m doing my best to keep things interesting especially when it comes to controversial topics. I do think you are correct that sometimes it is easy to get caught up on one subject that you are interested in.

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        Yeah I guess that’s the problem everything I see from this instance is mostly grievance politics or murder fantasies about some group. To be fair I wasn’t really sure on defederation but then that shit just started showing up everywhere… And also when someone is saying you are a fascist they are not saying that you are a Nazi they are different words. Sorry about your grandma that story was no Bueno. My great grandmothers family was killed by Italian fascists in the mid 1930s. Anyways here’s a joke before I go to bed.

        If Russia and Germany would invade Poland again, who the Poles will shoot at first? Germans. Business before pleasure.

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          I do not think there are real murder fantasies going on here at all - I am not sure what this is in reference to…

          I actually think we are a real Libertarian instance and we have some red pilled Libertarians or “Alt Libertarians” who occasionally say very offensive shit, but the goal has never been nor will it ever be to impose anything on anyone.

          Also… If you look at the ModLog… You can go back and see that there have actually been isntances where comments have been removed solely because the N-word was used.

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            I do not think there are real murder fantasies going on here at all

            You have upvoted posts where the top comment is “removedfags should be lined up and shot.”… This is public content, so I’m not sure why you want to deny that stuff like that is going on here and is obviously tolerated…

            but the goal has never been nor will it ever be to impose anything on anyone.

            I don’t know what your opinion is, but there are definitely people here who apparently want death for trans people, or drag queens, or homosexuals, or leftists…

            there have actually been isntances where comments have been removed solely because the N-word was used.

            I don’t think the usage of the N-word is what concerns people most…

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              You have upvoted posts where the top comment is “removedfags should be lined up and shot.”… This is public content, so I’m not sure why you want to deny that stuff like that is going on here and is obviously tolerated…

              I actually have no memory of upvoting something as grotesquely worded as that, but perhaps the attached meme was funny.

              I don’t know what your opinion is, but there are definitely people here who apparently want death for trans people, or drag queens, or homosexuals, or leftists…

              I do not want death or coercion for anybody.

              I don’t think the usage of the N-word is what concerns people most…

              Then this makes the situation a bit dishonest.

              Use the N-word and you are an evil Nazi, but It’s even worse if you just say shit we don’t like and are not saying the N-word because now you’re ultra-dangerous cryptofash

              Not a really fun game to play, IMO

          • Shit@sh.itjust.works
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            😂 no one’s talking about the n word. And real libertarians generally don’t worship or want a dictator but I guess the meaning of the word changed recently or whatever.

            https://lemmy.kya.moe/imgproxy?src=media.discordapp.net%2fattachments/854442244202168366/1124399932246331522/Screenshot_20230630_110322_Firefox.jpg

            • Lovstuhagen@exploding-heads.comM
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              Plus this is why people upvote the drag show meme:

              Not because we think we need to interfere in the lives of gay people - nothing can be done really to make them choose anything differnet, it is the way of their life, let them live it - but because we dislike groomers, and that is what a “family friendly” drag show is based around, more or less.

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                but because we dislike groomers

                Virtually everyone dislikes groomers… But you can’t throw a whole group of people into the same box for the actions of individuals… That would be just as ridiculous as saying “Christians are groomers because the catholic church has a problem with child abuse” or “all conservatives are nazis”…

                And fyi, trans women are biologically able to breastfeed their children. There is medication for biological women and trans women that makes it possible for them to produce milk without being pregnant.

                I’m not saying I support it, in my opinion there are concerns with taking this medicine (this applies to both biological women and trans women taking that medicine). But those kind of posts aren’t constructive discussions about the topic, their only purpose seems to be to paint “removed” as pedos and child abusers by implying that the only possible reasons for a trans woman to feed her child is sexual pleasure, which if true would obviously be bad…

                • Lovstuhagen@exploding-heads.comM
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                  And fyi, trans women are biologically able to breastfeed their children. There is medication for biological women and trans women that makes it possible for them to produce milk without being pregnant.

                  Well, isn’t this a monstrosity, lol.

                  If a heterosexual man was taking pills to lactate and feed his kids, I would want to wash my eyes with soap…

                  For very similar reasons this unnatural practice is repugnant.

                  But those kind of posts aren’t constructive discussions about the topic, their only purpose seems to be to paint “removed” as pedos and child abusers by implying that the only possible reasons for a trans woman to feed her child is sexual pleasure, which if true would obviously be bad…

                  Yeah, I mean, I know that you respect transpeople and are supportive of their lifestyle. I do not want to illegalize or actively pursue some sort of conflict with them, but I also want to state my opinions about it frankly.

                  I am sure that there are people on the Left who LOL and upvote at memes that have violent fates for “Nazis” and many were likely chortling with glee at the fire memes about the dead billionaires in the sub…

                  But isn’t it sealioning if I then go to your instances and say that you are all violent revolutionaries with homicidal fantasies?

                  • aski3252@exploding-heads.com
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                    If a heterosexual man was taking pills to lactate and feed his kids, I would want to wash my eyes

                    Ok but it wasn’t a heterosexual man…

                    For very similar reasons this unnatural practice is repugnant.

                    First of all, male lactation is something that has been documented occasionally in nature, including in humans.

                    Secondly, claiming “unnatural practice” as the sole and obvious justification why we shouldn’t do something always seems very strange to me. We are humans, we have rejected nature a long time ago. Pretty much anything we do is “unnatural” by definition. Any medication ever would fall into the category of “unnatural practices”, so would you sitting on an “unnatural” chair and looking into an “unnatural” screen.

                    I do not want to illegalize or actively pursue some sort of conflict with them, but I also want to state my opinions about it frankly.

                    Which is fine in my view.

                    I am sure that there are people on the Left who LOL and upvote at memes that have violent fates for “Nazis” and many were likely chortling with glee at the fire memes about the dead billionaires in the sub…

                    There are definitely lefties who have a very weird and ultra romanticized view of “revolution” and there is definitely a lot of negative feelings towards billionaires and others. But ultimately, leftists aren’t primarily concerned with targeting individuals, whether that is individual right wingers, individual politicians, etc.

                    They are concerned with systemic issues and targeting the system overall.

                    But isn’t it sealioning if I then go to your instances and say that you are all violent revolutionaries with homicidal fantasies?

                    It would be, yes. But that’s not what I’m doing in my view, I’m not saying “you are all violent racist homophobes”, if I believed that, I wouldn’t be here. I had a great and insightful conversation just the other day.

                    But when I see a “meme post” that is about how “removed are pedos who abuse children” (masked behind the idea that “it’s just a joke, just a bit of lighthearted fun”) where the most upvoted comment is saying something like “removedfags should be lined up and shot”, I will call that out.

                    And my aim isn’t to paint you all as violent extremists, my aim is to show you that tolerating this kind of “discourse” is just destroying your own community and ultimately undermines the free-speech space you want to build.

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                What’s that have to do with putting people in a woodchipper? Like do you really not understand?😂

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                Jesus dude I can’t without the conversation getting uncivil but I’ll try. Libertarians are opposed to authoritarianism. There are plenty of other spaces on the internet where we hangout without the weird political bias. If you hate one person doing something you should hate the other for doing it as well.

        • Wigglehard@exploding-heads.comOPM
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          Nice lol. Yes, I am Prussian and Bavarian by my German grandparents. Although the Bavarian side immigrated to the United States in the 1890s and we’re actually a part of the last royal quart of Germany before the unification… sounds crazy, but I’ve actually seen the documents and proof from my grandfather before he died. My grandmother’s Prussian family, basically almost all of them are dead because they were massacred during World War II. I’m pretty sure the only her mother and one or two of her brothers got out.