• drathvedro@lemm.ee
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    7 days ago

    Install WhatsApp

    That’s when you lost me. Either teach your boomer relatives to use Signal, Matrix, or, at the very least, Telegram. Otherwise, let them reach to you via Facebook which you open only in web browser in containerized tab.

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      6 days ago

      I think you understimate boomer relatives intelligence =) Some simply can’t be taught.

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      6 days ago

      Otherwise, let them reach to you via Facebook which you open only in web browser in containerized tab.

      I just hire a rando guy from a different country to become me on Facebook. Then I have them email screenshots to a different email. A separate person gets those emails and prints them out. They mail it to a PO box, which gets picked up by a whole different person. The handoff happens at 615pm at the subway on Broadway Ave.

      I open the handoff. It’s pictures of my niece celebrating her 6th birthday. I give the guy a thumbs up. He takes that thumbs up, translates it back to paper and reverses the whole process.

      It takes 6 weeks for me to respond. But that’s the price of security.

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      7 days ago

      If your friends and family are willing to use those apps over WhatsApp than they love you in a way I don’t really believe is possible.

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      7 days ago

      What’s wrong with WhatsApp? Honest question. They are E2E encrypted just like Signal, right? Better than Telegram, which isn’t in normal chats.

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        No its not. Only your chat is E2E, other meta data is collected. Who you have saved in your contacts, who you are talking to. Your friends, family co-workers etc. They are all connected to you.

        So if only one of your friends were to voice their opinion about a controversial opinion (eg palestine, luigi etc) it will be linked to you.

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          I thought WhatsApp used the same encryption tech/lib/method as Signal? But again, as you said, still only for chats?

          But how would anyone know if we’re talking about Palestine or whatever, if chats are encrypted? Or do you mean talking about Palestine elsewhere where it isn’t encrypted, and then it’s linked to me via WhatsApp connecting us?

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            6 days ago

            Yes, if someone talks about it on fb or insta, it would be immediately linked with their phone number which is also a requirement for Whatsapp.

            I was recently watching an interview with some tech workers who were fired for voicing their opinion against israel and one of them was from Meta and she confirmed that meta is closely working with IDF especially sharing WhatsApp meta data.

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        7 days ago
        • It’s Facebook

        • It didn’t work on PC until very recently

        • It’s closed as fuck source. They went as far as sending cease and desists to third party client developers.

        • It’s tied down to phone number and shares it with everyone you talk to

        • It’s bolted down to gdrive

        • Only boomers use it to send trashy GIFs to each other

        That’s about all I have, but I’ve never actually used it. Maybe someone else could chime in with more reasons, but for me those are already enough to stay away from it as far as possible.

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          It didn’t work on PC until very recently

          Wrong. It had an official webapp since forever.

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            Wrong. The webapp was (still is?) just a glorified remote to a phone app, and would cease to function if you turn off the phone.