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      It’s also easy to mistake one person for another. It’s happened over and over and over again. People with the same name as someone else get harassed because they get doxxed and the harassers don’t bother checking.

      You must know this. How many times have we seen it played out now?

      https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/oct/25/vigilante-paedophile-hunters-online-police

      https://ethics.org.au/why-are-people-stalking-the-real-life-humans-behind-baby-reindeer/

      https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2017/08/17/543980653/kyle-quinn-hid-at-a-friend-s-house-after-being-misidentified-on-twitter-as-a-rac

      This poor guy killed himself over it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Sunil_Tripathi

      And now we’ve added assassination into the mix.

      Do you really think this is going to end without any innocent blood spilled?

      Edit: It’s also not hard to convince a bunch of people some random person is an evil CEO just by doxxing them. Like I said, people don’t bother checking.

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        lol. These people are recognizable. You need to go to a lot of effort to locate and plan that. It’s highly unlikely anyone would “mistake” them for someone else. That’s like someone saying “I thought I was aiming at Elon Musk, at his house, but it turns out he has a doppelgänger who lives next door!”

        Really unlikely. Did you used to be a fed?

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          Please show me the odds. I assume you’ve calculated them. Because I gave you a ton of examples of the wrong person being identified, including people who the vigilante thinks were a totally different person but they looked like the person they wanted to attack.

          And I would like to know, like I asked someone else, where your line is. Is it okay if someone bombs a CEO in the middle of a city and a bunch of people around them die? If the CEO is with their family including an infant when they are attacked, is it okay if the infant is killed too?

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            No, we have a pretty good example of how to do it. Patience, low powder shells, home made silencer. Just don’t buy Starbucks or take a cab without changing clothes somewhere haha. Perhaps a prosthetic nose or a mustache.

            You’re going to the worst case, when that’s pretty unlikely. Who has a bomb?! lol. It’s guns. Single target. Simple.

            Again, you sound like a fed.

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                The line is check your target, get them alone, and just them. That’s a fuck ton more than they do when they indiscriminately kill thousands of people by denying valid claims. They’re getting off easy.

                So, you ever had a job in law enforcement of any kind?

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                  Why do you assume everyone wanting to do this vigilante thing will do that?

                  So, you ever had a job in law enforcement of any kind?

                  I’ve played this game before. If I say no, you’ll just claim I’m lying about it.

                  And it’s really silly to assume someone works or ever worked in law enforcement because they have seen a lot of vigilantes attack or kill the wrong person. Believe it or not, I just think that’s why vigilantism is a bad thing. You make a lot of silly assumptions.

                  But sure, I was totally in law enforcement.

                  Obviously this is an invented persona covering up my undercover police activites. Me and James Acaster. Curses, you found me out! I’m going to have to go back to the station and get a new mustache now.