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    It’s also easy to mistake one person for another. It’s happened over and over and over again. People with the same name as someone else get harassed because they get doxxed and the harassers don’t bother checking.

    You must know this. How many times have we seen it played out now?

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/oct/25/vigilante-paedophile-hunters-online-police

    https://ethics.org.au/why-are-people-stalking-the-real-life-humans-behind-baby-reindeer/

    https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2017/08/17/543980653/kyle-quinn-hid-at-a-friend-s-house-after-being-misidentified-on-twitter-as-a-rac

    This poor guy killed himself over it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Sunil_Tripathi

    And now we’ve added assassination into the mix.

    Do you really think this is going to end without any innocent blood spilled?

    Edit: It’s also not hard to convince a bunch of people some random person is an evil CEO just by doxxing them. Like I said, people don’t bother checking.

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      lol. These people are recognizable. You need to go to a lot of effort to locate and plan that. It’s highly unlikely anyone would “mistake” them for someone else. That’s like someone saying “I thought I was aiming at Elon Musk, at his house, but it turns out he has a doppelgänger who lives next door!”

      Really unlikely. Did you used to be a fed?

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        Please show me the odds. I assume you’ve calculated them. Because I gave you a ton of examples of the wrong person being identified, including people who the vigilante thinks were a totally different person but they looked like the person they wanted to attack.

        And I would like to know, like I asked someone else, where your line is. Is it okay if someone bombs a CEO in the middle of a city and a bunch of people around them die? If the CEO is with their family including an infant when they are attacked, is it okay if the infant is killed too?

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          No, we have a pretty good example of how to do it. Patience, low powder shells, home made silencer. Just don’t buy Starbucks or take a cab without changing clothes somewhere haha. Perhaps a prosthetic nose or a mustache.

          You’re going to the worst case, when that’s pretty unlikely. Who has a bomb?! lol. It’s guns. Single target. Simple.

          Again, you sound like a fed.

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              The line is check your target, get them alone, and just them. That’s a fuck ton more than they do when they indiscriminately kill thousands of people by denying valid claims. They’re getting off easy.

              So, you ever had a job in law enforcement of any kind?

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                Why do you assume everyone wanting to do this vigilante thing will do that?

                So, you ever had a job in law enforcement of any kind?

                I’ve played this game before. If I say no, you’ll just claim I’m lying about it.

                And it’s really silly to assume someone works or ever worked in law enforcement because they have seen a lot of vigilantes attack or kill the wrong person. Believe it or not, I just think that’s why vigilantism is a bad thing. You make a lot of silly assumptions.

                But sure, I was totally in law enforcement.

                Obviously this is an invented persona covering up my undercover police activites. Me and James Acaster. Curses, you found me out! I’m going to have to go back to the station and get a new mustache now.

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                    Like I said, you figured out my dastardly undercover plan to spend my entire adult life working in video and audio production:

                    I have spent most of my professional life in the video and audio production industries. I had my own small post-production studio in Los Angeles for 10 years. I have worked as a video editor, audio editor and sound designer for multiple prestigious clients and also for some low-budget film companies.

                    I also have experience as a news videographer, I’ve done a lot of TV and radio advertising work, and I have an impressive list of people I’ve done voice over work for (I specialize in characters and accents).

                    I went to the police academy at age 5 and got hired by the FBI when I was 9 and by the time I was 18 and went to school to become an audio engineer, I had already begun my federal police plan to infiltrate Lemmy. In the year 1999.

                    And it would have worked if it wasn’t for you kids and your dog.

                    I don’t know how you figured out that I am very much definitely a cop for sure, but you’ve ruined 38 years of hard police work!