Has anyone had good experiences with a saltless water softener/conditioner in their home?

I live in an area with hard water, at about 400ppm. I have a salt water softener already, but am tired of having to fill it with salt that just ends up in my septic system, and ultimately into the ground water.

Most advice says you can’t soften water without salt. But I’ve had good experience with ProOne’s gravity water filter, and noticed they also have a water softener/conditioner. Unfortunately I can’t find much info or reviews on their saltless softener: https://prooneusa.com/product/prosoft-saltless-water-softener-conditioner/

    • ArgentCorvid [Iowa]@midwest.social
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      1 year ago

      Interesting, I use Citric acid all the time to descale the coffee machine and my cpap humidifier.

      I suppose it’s just like those things you can put on the end of your garden hose that meters out the correct dose based on flow rate, but permanently mounted.

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    1 year ago

    As I understand it, there is a difference between “softening” and “conditioning”, and almost all the saltless systems are “conditioners”,but for most people it doesn’t matter.

    I’ve been intrigued by the magnetic ones, just because they sound and look like the snake oil things that are sold to increase gas mileage in cars, but actually seem to work.

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      1 year ago

      To be honest, as long as my appliances don’t have a shorter life, I don’t have to use extra soap everywhere, and I don’t have scale build up or hard water stains, that’s all that really matters.

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    1 year ago

    Brine discharge can be pretty bad for the environment, so we do some tank exchange thing with Culligan. Every other week they install a new tank and remove the old one to be recharged. Working great so far.

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      1 year ago

      That’s neat. How much do they change you? Does the salt just get released into the environment at their facility instead at your home?

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        1 year ago

        It’s about $50 a month. Nothing gets released at my house, which is nice. I’m a little out of my depth with the chemical reaction, but the idea is inside the tank are a bunch of resin beads impregnated with stuff calcium and magnesium ions will bind to. So as water flows through the tank the calcium and magnesium is removed and stored in the beads. So the beads store it, but can’t store an infinite amount. The tank gets switched out every 2 weeks and culligan takes the old tank back and reverse the process. I’m sure this involves nasty stuff, but hopefully economy of scale and regulations make it a cleaner process than just dumping the salt in the ground.

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          1 year ago

          Culligan takes the tank and runs salt water through it.

          maybe they re-use the brine on more tanks and it has less of an impact, and maybe they post-process the water to be friendlier.

          but you’ve just described a regular water softener with extra steps.