• Mambabasa@slrpnk.netOP
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    • Scientists are screaming to the top of their lungs in saying the world, much less the most powerful man in the world, isn’t doing enough. He is the most powerful man in the world. Biden could stop the drilling if he wanted to. Harris could campaign on the same.
    • Oh did the concentration camps close? That’s what I care about. I’d support closing the camps! Anything less is sophistry.
    • Get your head out of your ass. Voting isn’t resistance against genocide. You’re cosigning it asshole! Don’t say you’re voting for Palestine, because you’re not. You’re a coward who won’t do the real work of taking down the empire.
    • Don’t you see the irony here? YOU HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO CHOOSE FOR GENOCIDE. You have no idea how weak, how pathetic your vote is. YOU HAVE NO CHOICE. You COULD recognize this and recognize the absolute tragedy, the farce, feel absolute shame, hide your vote from the world from knowing (who would know? it’s a secret ballot) OR you could defend the program you’re supporting, as you are doing now. Your choice has been made. You are supporting the candidate for genocide. That’s it. There’s nothing else to it.
    • If you had any sense of SHAME of the HAVING NO CHOICE BUT TO CHOOSE GENOCIDE, you can shut the fuck up, stop defending Biden and Harris, and never speak of your vote again for the shamefulness that it is.
    • Be by utmost guest. Go ahead and vote for 99% Hitler. I won’t stop you. I couldn’t even if I wanted to. But I won’t let you forget what you are choosing. THAT’S why I’m posting.
      • Mambabasa@slrpnk.netOP
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        What do you think I am? An unprincipled tankie? Have you even talked to a real person analyzing the genocide in Uyghuristan? No, you just want to compare genocides and imperialisms like some pissing contest.

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          What do you think I am? An unprincipled tankie?

          I was wondering about it, yes. You are the very first one of the “I’m not from the US, but I feel INCREDIBLY strongly about how important it is that people not vote in the US election, and that method of agitation is my chief opinion about how to make good things happen in the world” accounts that hasn’t reacted to that question by claiming there is no genocide in Xinjiang. I always thought that was weird. They feel very strongly about genocide as relates to the internal politics of one country they are not from, but not about a different country they are not from.

          Obviously, they are both bad things in actuality. I’m not trying to compare. The genocide in Palestine is horrifying, and like I say, not wanting it to accelerate and get substantially worse is one big reason I don’t want Trump.

          It seems like you’re just going in a loop over the same type of arguments in endless repetition, so like I said, I think I’ve learned about as much as I wanted to learn from this. If you want to have some reasoned discussion I am up for it, but if it’s just more of this, then no thank you. I was just curious on your attitude to Xinjiang.

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            What reasonable discussion could be had through a spirited defense of a genocidaire? All you have is sophistry. Just rest in your shamefulness and shut up. Vote if you want, but don’t forget what you are cosigning.

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              Absolutely. You’re advocating for something which risks making genocide ten times more widespread, and I spent some time talking with you, taking your arguments head-on and explaining why I don’t agree with them. You could do the same with my arguments if you wanted to. Instead you’re going in circles. If you want to chat with me at some point in the future, start by taking my arguments head-on in the same way, instead of just circling back to the beginning of your own argument and repeating it with some capital letters added in.

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                Advocating? What am I advocating for? I told you I won’t and can’t stop people from voting. What I’m advocating is that you don’t forget what you’re cosigning, that you are voting for genocide whether you like it or not and therefore you should feel shameful about it.

                Not once have I advocated abstentionism, not even in real life or in my own country. People just be making shit up about what I’m actually arguing. I’m just here to make you feel shame for defending a genocidaire. I told you won’t stop you from voting; I’m just here to remind you what you’re choosing.

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                  Choosing less genocide, instead of more? I’m supposed to feel bad about that? Fuck no, I will not. Why on earth would I?

                  If you give me an option which is achievable, now or in the future, which is better than Harris in terms of what the US does and supports, I will take it. In the meantime, fuck off with your “tons more genocide is the same as some genocide, whee, look at me and my superiority over the people who want less genocide” stuff.

                  Like I said, you’re going in circles, and I am not interested. Have a good one.

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                    Shameless. You’re sitting there, choosing genocide is nothing to feel bad about. Just shameless. Truly a worthless cause.