Not particularly. New motor for my car is like $3500 and I have the knowledge to swap it myself. That’s similar or cheaper than the battery swaps I’ve heard about. I still think EV’s are a good idea but this particular issue is not why.
It’s actually a concern that depending on the vehicle I won’t be able to swap a battery out on an EV myself. Some of them are huge and exceedingly heavy. So they require special tools / lifts to do it safely.
Yeah, some of us have skills others don’t. You’d not want to ride a car where I’ve swapped the engine, I’ll tell you that.
My comment is, however, a paraphrase on the two most common questions regarding EVs. From people who doesn’t, unlike you, know how to change a transmission. If ICE cars are as unreliable compared to EVs as alluded to in the article, then EVs should be considered the safe and reliable option…
From the article it still seems more like wishful thinking to me. Like batteries surprised them so the rest should too.
EVs will last longer than ICE because there are fewer moving parts; contrary to what people thought would happen, batteries are lasting a lot longer than they were expected to
If batteries and electric motors last as long or longer than ICE then great. EV or ICE you’ll still have all the other stuff. Tires, brakes, steering components (tie rods, ball joints, etc), suspension (struts, springs, bushings) and dealing with undercarriage rust. Coatings are better all the time but crap just rusts. That kind of stuff is gonna wear out the same or possible slightly faster due to the added weight from EV’s for similar vehicles.
The real benefit to EV’s is the reduction of ‘short-term’ maintenance. Oil changes every X thousand miles are out. If you can charge at home then trips to fill up are out too. Most of the ‘other stuff’ above is years in between.
Most of my engine swaps are cause somebody did something dumb…usually my nephews.
I think that is the question. The Nissan Leaf gave the entire industry a bad taste because they did not (and still do not) actively cool their batteries. I’m not sure we ever recovered from that. They lasted like 40k miles. So that’s the perception that we’re battling, that batteries only last ~100k miles vs. ICE powertrains that last twice as long.
That didn’t stop Nissan to conclude that the batteries lasted twice as long as the rest of the car. The number of (newish# cars taken out of traffic each year is higher than we expect.
Aren’t you afraid you will need to change the (ICE) motor? Those are costly and tend to fail more often than batteries, you know?
Not particularly. New motor for my car is like $3500 and I have the knowledge to swap it myself. That’s similar or cheaper than the battery swaps I’ve heard about. I still think EV’s are a good idea but this particular issue is not why.
It’s actually a concern that depending on the vehicle I won’t be able to swap a battery out on an EV myself. Some of them are huge and exceedingly heavy. So they require special tools / lifts to do it safely.
You seem niche.
Most people don’t have the time or knowledge to swap a car engine tho? That’s a huge cost factor in this equation.
Yeah, some of us have skills others don’t. You’d not want to ride a car where I’ve swapped the engine, I’ll tell you that.
My comment is, however, a paraphrase on the two most common questions regarding EVs. From people who doesn’t, unlike you, know how to change a transmission. If ICE cars are as unreliable compared to EVs as alluded to in the article, then EVs should be considered the safe and reliable option…
From the article it still seems more like wishful thinking to me. Like batteries surprised them so the rest should too.
If batteries and electric motors last as long or longer than ICE then great. EV or ICE you’ll still have all the other stuff. Tires, brakes, steering components (tie rods, ball joints, etc), suspension (struts, springs, bushings) and dealing with undercarriage rust. Coatings are better all the time but crap just rusts. That kind of stuff is gonna wear out the same or possible slightly faster due to the added weight from EV’s for similar vehicles.
The real benefit to EV’s is the reduction of ‘short-term’ maintenance. Oil changes every X thousand miles are out. If you can charge at home then trips to fill up are out too. Most of the ‘other stuff’ above is years in between.
Most of my engine swaps are cause somebody did something dumb…usually my nephews.
I think that is the question. The Nissan Leaf gave the entire industry a bad taste because they did not (and still do not) actively cool their batteries. I’m not sure we ever recovered from that. They lasted like 40k miles. So that’s the perception that we’re battling, that batteries only last ~100k miles vs. ICE powertrains that last twice as long.
That didn’t stop Nissan to conclude that the batteries lasted twice as long as the rest of the car. The number of (newish# cars taken out of traffic each year is higher than we expect.