Folks,
while I love legit, informational, open-minded arguments in general, there were a couple hate-speech attacks against a recent, Belgian/Jewish-themed post here that immediately smashed our #1 rule here (“Netiquette”) to bits.

Those came from two individuals in particular (same notorious instance, not gonna lie), and disgusted both myself and my co-mod.

So I want to remind everyone here-- for anyone new to this community, it’s both commonsense and classic Netiquette to suggest that if one wants to argue vociferously, it’s best to do it by steps. Politely, if possible.

Well, no “steps” were followed in those cases. They essentially went from 0-to-60 in hate-speech, and are now perma-banned here for the moment. Still, if they’d like to appeal, they may. I’m not opposed to talking things out, assuming good-faith is involved.

Btw, not sure if this is a side-note or what, but I’m proud to support Pales-people as well as the Jewish. Both Semitic peoples, I consider my friends & colleagues. (and yes, I understand that the entire region is *extremely* complicated, and yes, by no means am I automatically a fan of Zionism)

EDIT: I’ve made some major clarifications in my message above, trying for a more useful, fairer approach. Thank you for reading.

    • Nacktmull@lemm.eeMEnglish
      31·
      3 days ago

      First you claim to be against genocide. Then you write:

      I will be watching with bated breath the day your society finally, rightfully falls.

      What kind of mental gymnastics is that supposed to be? Obviously you are indeed in favor of genocide, as long as only Jewish people are the victims of it. Or what exactly do you think would happen to its Jewish citizens, if Israel were to “fall”, as you trivialize it?

        • Nacktmull@lemm.eeMEnglish
          1·
          5 hours ago

          You are so hung up on seeing the world in black and white that all you got left is toxic and misanthropic hate speech. A well differentiated discussion about a topic as complex as the Israel-Palestine conflict is obviously not possible with you.

      • Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.winEnglish
        21·
        22 hours ago

        So as you can see from that recent diatribe, there is no rational debate, no reasoning, or even the faintest hint of willingness to be civil. There is just what you allow to pollute the site. Hamas got banned from Twitter and now rots Lemmy. It is up to you whether to allow it to continue, but do not make the mistake of thinking that attitude is a one-off, or won’t constantly try to get its digs in every chance it can if you do.

        • Nacktmull@lemm.eeMEnglish
          2·
          5 hours ago

          Agreed, we allowed this to go too far and for too long. I promise faster bans in the future, sorry for any inconvenience caused by our hesitation.

      • JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.eeOPMEnglish
        21·
        3 days ago

        OMG, thank you for explaining that. I get kind of emotional at times, but what you said was… schön?

        • Nacktmull@lemm.eeMEnglish
          21·
          2 days ago

          I really tried to stay out of the discussion but damn, that bs made me fucking angry!