A judge has dismissed a lawsuit contesting a transgender woman’s admission into a sorority at the University of Wyoming, ruling that he could not override how the private, voluntary organization defined a woman and order that she not belong.

In the lawsuit, six members of the Kappa Kappa Gamma sorority chapter challenged Artemis Langford’s admission by casting doubt on whether sorority rules allowed a transgender woman. Wyoming U.S. District Court Judge Alan Johnson, in his ruling, found that sorority bylaws don’t define who’s a woman.

The case at Wyoming’s only four-year public university drew widespread attention as transgender people fight for more acceptance in schools, athletics, workplaces and elsewhere, while others push back.

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    Women with traumatic pasts can be afraid if they want. Just look at what happens in prisons when a transsexual mtf goes into female population and ends up having a bunch of sex or even raping other inmates. It’s not like it’s completely out of the realm of possibility.

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      Won’t anyone think of the __________!..so that we have an excuse to continually strip you of rights and privileges. You won’t be any safer than you were before this WAY overblown issue, but we’ve now made it more difficult for this one targeted minority group to coexist with OUR group, and you’ve lost the right to do X, Y, and Z. But hey, atleast you’ve saved the ____________ from having to go through my totally hyperbolic scenario.

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        And it is just effing W I L D how women are told they need to just suck it up it they’re nervous around men because of a past sexual assault (“Not all men! You can’t judge half the species by one bad guy!” Etc etc), but it’s completely OK for women to be nervous around trans women if they were sexually assaulted by a man. Weird how they insist trans women are men but you never hear that same “not all men! You can’t judge all men based on the actions of one bad guy!” thing when it’s that scenario, huh.

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        I’m not telling any woman anything. I’m merely pointing out that there’s real people with real issues that are ignored when you just blanket call it ridiculous. You don’t have to be in a group to be able to point out rationales.

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          Uh huh.

          Look at you, completely blowing off the words of a woman in that group you’re supposedly defending. But then, I’m saying something you don’t want to hear and doesn’t fit the narrative you’ve constructed as your excuse to hate trans folks.

          Stop using women as your excuse. You don’t care about us, not really. If you did, you’d be out there protesting with that same full-throatedness at male guards assaulting women in prisons and the 1-in-4 statistic. But you’re not. You’re raging at a marginalized group that is statistically more often the victim of assaults than the ones doing it. But you don’t care at all about that, do you.

          The only person you’re fooling is yourself.

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            The one in four statistic is bullshit. All I’m doing is saying that they have the right to not like it. If they have reasons it doesn’t matter what they are. It’s their house where they live, where they sleep where they shower. They want to feel safe and they don’t feel safe so they are making complaints and everyone in this thread is calling them bigots because they don’t like it.

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              The one in four statistic is bullshit

              Yeah, you’re not worth any more of my time and you definitely don’t actually care about women. You have the mediocre day you deserve.

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      I’m worried women with traumatic pasts are afraid of Tb0n3 using the internet, so I think we should ban Tb0n3 from using the internet to make these unnamed women feel less afraid. In fact, we take away all of Tb0n3’s access to any electronic devices while we figure this out. We have to do it to keep women safe.

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        I’m merely defending their right to use the argument. And there’s a massive difference between somebody saying things on the Internet and somebody sharing a bathroom or sleeping in the next room.

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          I’m merely defending their right to use the argument.

          Bullshit. You’re using them as shields for your own bigotry against the trans people you hate.

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          I already said others might not feel safe if you were allowed to use electronics, yet here you are again, completely insisting on using this site despite the harm you may cause. We should probably get law enforcement involved at this point, just so these people I imagined might be afraid can be safe. They can forcibly take away your computer and phone while the rest of us figure this out. Sure, you think there is a massive difference, but that is just something someone dangerous like you would say to trick them. More proof that you need to remain banned from participation.

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                Again. There you are being retarded. Have you been outside in the past 10 years? Ever? You keep trying to read my mind but fail miserably.

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                  Doubling down on the hate speech I see. Is this your programming glitching? I’ve heard AI has trouble when the conversation goes more than a couple of lines, but I didn’t know it went into full on KKK mode. At least, I hope you are AI, given how easy it was to get you to show some true hateful colors.

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                    Honestly if you think I’m KKK or even racist from what I’ve said you need to get out more. Maybe look up the definition of race and figure out that women being uncomfortable sharing women only spaces with transsexuals is not a race.

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      Because rapes don’t happen in a completely cis prison?

      I bet they happen even more than with trans inmates.

      Don’t drop your soap.

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      Anyone can be afraid of anything. That’s their problem, talk it out with a therapist instead of discriminating against people that are just living their lives and aren’t doing anything to hurt you.

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        Plenty of people are afraid of other races, but we recognize that as racism, and we don’t try to pass laws in order to make racists comfortable.

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      What does being trans have to do with it? Rape is wrong whether a trans person or a cis person does it. It’s just wrong, period.