What the fuck, such a ridiculous bunch of bullshit. You must have no concept of the massive variety and depth of the massive landscape that makes up the USA.
My house is brick, built about 5 decades ago, I own it along with multiple acres of forested land. I get along with my neighbors fine, and we help each other out occasionally, and we have enough distance and room from each other that I can piss in my yard any hour of any day that I want with privacy. The crime rate here is so low that we have about 1 murder per decade on average. I pretty much do whatever I want all the time here in the USA and I wouldn’t trade it to live anywhere else (unless someone paid me millions of dollars to)
You have nothing to contribute but hatred for those you envy. Sorry that your life is not how you want it to be.
For the record, I pay more individual taxes than the majority of American households do to our Federal government, and more than the vast majority of households to my state so you are completely wrong about that “parasite” garbage.
Yeah just make up whatever makes you feel better about being trapped in the prison of city life. You make a lot of assumptions about things that you don’t have the ability to quantify.
The facts you’re ignoring are that rural areas support the agriculture and industry necessary to sustain city life, and cities could not exist without them, aside from some hellish Soylent Green type of artificial subsistence.
Rural areas support agriculture? How? By taking up space that could be use for farmland? Or do rural people somehow buy more from farmers than city people?
What about options? I don’t want an apartment. I have a modest home on less than a quarter acre of property. My neighbor’s house is 16ft from mine. Some people have bigger. Some people like apartments. Just options, you know? Or should everyone need to live in sense, urban areas? And I say this, the town I live in has about 5500 people/square mile, which is pretty dense. If I drive 10m south it’s farms. There’s a real variety.
Most folks online seem to only know cheap HOA Florida style neighborhoods with zero places to walk, cheap construction and 10 ft between houses.
Everyone makes assumptions of what “dense apartment living” , “suburban living” etc looks like, and folks are generally wrong on both sides of the perspective.
At its best, suburban living is great. I’m biased because I have an awesome suburb home I bought for cheap many years ago, and have awesome neighbors and no need for an HOA. I can access public transportation easily and use it often. Many other great things, including privacy and quiet. I can access the city center in about 20 minutes or great outdoor spaces in say 30. By bike. That’s not normal for lots of folks
But again, I’m biased. My experience is not universal.
suburb you described is pretty much the exception and these are expansive generally as any city.
South or West US style burbs is just the same corporate ghetto except this one does not produce sufficient tax base to support its existence without “growth”
I clarified my bias, but fyi my suburb is in the “west US”. As I said, everyone here is making assumptions. Reducing whole regions of the country to a described “corporate ghetto” isn’t a realistic reflection
Southern US has been development 70-80% post WW2 entire fucking region is corporate ghetto from poorly designed urban cores to the shiti mcmansion burbs 30 miles out.
Sure there are good places near the urban core with 2 million dollar house. That shit is great but kinda not accessible.
No need to argue, we (edit spelling) agree many bad neighborhoods exist. but that’s the exact generalization I’m talking about: not all neighborhoods are alike. My house is nowhere close to 2mil.
Point being broad generalizations exist on both sides of the conversation, and a more nuanced perspective (and a tighter scope of discussion) will better serve this topic, and aid meaningful discussion. Else we end up with this thread.
Using globals, and the biases that come with them is always weaker than focusing on specific areas and the needs therein.
Like I wouldn’t want to assume that all European apartment blocks are Soviet era shoeboxes. That would be a poor understanding of the very different dense housing in Europe.
Lolwat
Us construction quality is shite… Even Macmansions you hear everything everybody doing with the property.
The wood structure just passes noise through the entire house🤡
Also your neighbors care about who you are in because they can since there is so few people lol
While your every move online is tracked.
How is this different from a row house?
I will admit that living in wood frame construction apartments is degrading though.
But the issue is quality and type of costruction, not the type of housing but suburban trash would never understand these things.
Hey, but let’s talk about crime now
What the fuck, such a ridiculous bunch of bullshit. You must have no concept of the massive variety and depth of the massive landscape that makes up the USA.
My house is brick, built about 5 decades ago, I own it along with multiple acres of forested land. I get along with my neighbors fine, and we help each other out occasionally, and we have enough distance and room from each other that I can piss in my yard any hour of any day that I want with privacy. The crime rate here is so low that we have about 1 murder per decade on average. I pretty much do whatever I want all the time here in the USA and I wouldn’t trade it to live anywhere else (unless someone paid me millions of dollars to)
Good for you… But your taxes paid on property and gasoline don’t support the infrastructure you are using even more then
Fuxking parasites got to comfortable they don’t know they leeching 🤡
Also many houses are “brick” is woodgrame with brick decor that is lol
For reference, here’s a Not Just Bikes video about how suburban property taxes do not cover the costs of infrastructure, with numbers: https://youtu.be/7Nw6qyyrTeI?si=mVDdJNfGXV0g-W65
as in they don’t cover sufficiently or they are not even used for infra purpose?
A block of suburban homes generates less tax revenue than the cost of maintaining the infrastructure it requires.
Alright correct, this is strong towns original research
You have nothing to contribute but hatred for those you envy. Sorry that your life is not how you want it to be.
For the record, I pay more individual taxes than the majority of American households do to our Federal government, and more than the vast majority of households to my state so you are completely wrong about that “parasite” garbage.
Suburban and rural development tax base does not support the infrastructure they require to live a modern life.
I am happy that you make good income, good for you but your “income taxes” don’t go to fund infrastructure, at least not directly.
Consider educating yourself on the topic.
Yeah just make up whatever makes you feel better about being trapped in the prison of city life. You make a lot of assumptions about things that you don’t have the ability to quantify.
The facts you’re ignoring are that rural areas support the agriculture and industry necessary to sustain city life, and cities could not exist without them, aside from some hellish Soylent Green type of artificial subsistence.
Rural areas support agriculture? How? By taking up space that could be use for farmland? Or do rural people somehow buy more from farmers than city people?
So everyone should have acres of land? And drive literally tens or hundreds of miles to buy a gallon of milk? How does that scale?
Do you seriously think that people are driving HUNDREDS of miles to get necessities?
What about options? I don’t want an apartment. I have a modest home on less than a quarter acre of property. My neighbor’s house is 16ft from mine. Some people have bigger. Some people like apartments. Just options, you know? Or should everyone need to live in sense, urban areas? And I say this, the town I live in has about 5500 people/square mile, which is pretty dense. If I drive 10m south it’s farms. There’s a real variety.
So everyone should assume that every comment on Lemmy is an absolute prescription for how every other person should live their life?
Most folks online seem to only know cheap HOA Florida style neighborhoods with zero places to walk, cheap construction and 10 ft between houses.
Everyone makes assumptions of what “dense apartment living” , “suburban living” etc looks like, and folks are generally wrong on both sides of the perspective.
At its best, suburban living is great. I’m biased because I have an awesome suburb home I bought for cheap many years ago, and have awesome neighbors and no need for an HOA. I can access public transportation easily and use it often. Many other great things, including privacy and quiet. I can access the city center in about 20 minutes or great outdoor spaces in say 30. By bike. That’s not normal for lots of folks
But again, I’m biased. My experience is not universal.
suburb you described is pretty much the exception and these are expansive generally as any city.
South or West US style burbs is just the same corporate ghetto except this one does not produce sufficient tax base to support its existence without “growth”
I clarified my bias, but fyi my suburb is in the “west US”. As I said, everyone here is making assumptions. Reducing whole regions of the country to a described “corporate ghetto” isn’t a realistic reflection
Southern US has been development 70-80% post WW2 entire fucking region is corporate ghetto from poorly designed urban cores to the shiti mcmansion burbs 30 miles out.
Sure there are good places near the urban core with 2 million dollar house. That shit is great but kinda not accessible.
No need to argue, we (edit spelling) agree many bad neighborhoods exist. but that’s the exact generalization I’m talking about: not all neighborhoods are alike. My house is nowhere close to 2mil.
Point being broad generalizations exist on both sides of the conversation, and a more nuanced perspective (and a tighter scope of discussion) will better serve this topic, and aid meaningful discussion. Else we end up with this thread.
Using globals, and the biases that come with them is always weaker than focusing on specific areas and the needs therein.
Like I wouldn’t want to assume that all European apartment blocks are Soviet era shoeboxes. That would be a poor understanding of the very different dense housing in Europe.