The vice president told a crowd of roughly 20,000 in Dallas that former President Donald J. Trump had said he would terminate the Constitution in a second term.

“Consider: Donald Trump has openly vowed if re-elected he’ll be a dictator on day one, that he will weaponize the Department of Justice against his political enemies, round up peaceful protesters and throw them out of our country and even, and even and I quote, ‘terminate’ the United States Constitution,” Ms. Harris said.

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    Are you suggesting that an attempt to halt the certification of a presidential election endorsed and encouraged by the sitting president in the hopes of avoiding abdicating power is equivalent to a protest over police brutality?

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      Legal warfare, I dont like it either, but the losers do this a lot. If jan 6th was an insurrection or whatever, what was May 29th?

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        Legal warfare, I dont like it either, but the losers do this a lot.

        Show me one time Democrats have attempted to stop the certification of an election by force. You can’t just pretend this happens as a standard matter of course.

        what was May 29th?

        May 29th was a riot and not an insurrection because it had nothing to do with trying to overturn an election. Are you getting it yet?

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          Its not the same mechanism, but Hilary with making false russian claim and Gore with all the counting shenanigans.

          How were they going to overturn an election by occupying a building?

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            Hilary with making false russian claim

            In what way do claims of Russian interference - which has some truth to it btw - directly result in the overturning of an election?

            Gore with all the counting shenanigans

            Insane to present an example of an election being manipulated in Bush’s favor as an attempt by Gore to overturn an election. How are we supposed to have a discussion when we clearly live in different realities?

            How were they going to overturn an election by occupying a building?

            The attack on the Capitol was part of a wider plan orchestrated by Trump and his backers. The fake electors, the call to Georgia’s secretary of state, the baseless accusations of voter fraud… All of these combine to paint a pretty clear picture. Hell, the crowd at the Capitol called to hang Mike Pence because he refused to count the fake Certificates of Ascertainment.

            I’m only responding for the benefit of others since I know you’re just going to deny all of this or try to claim Democrats did the same or worse, but I really do hope you overcome your delusions someday.

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              Hillary undermined his whole presidency. Al Gore tried to use law to win election.

              The attack on the Capitol was part of a wider plan orchestrated by Trump and his backers.

              Conspiracy theory…

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                Hillary undermined his whole presidency.

                Yes, the fact that Russia ran a coordinated disinformation campaign that favored Trump does undermine his legitimacy a bit, but let’s not miss the forest for the trees. The fact that Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 and lost the election entirely in 2020 is more significant.

                Al Gore tried to use law to win election.

                61,000 ballots were not counted by mistake. Gore used the law to try and have them counted and the conservative supreme court interfered for political reasons. Gore was in the right.

                Conspiracy theory

                The amount of evidence supporting this theory rivals the theory of gravity.