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the ad hominem of tying anything RP/BP to being “incel-speak”, in an attempt to silence any discussion in favour of the ideological narrative.
We don’t need to “discuss” misogynistic postulates, the same way we don’t need to “discuss” if black people have souls. The request for “discussion” beliefs your position and reveals you’re beyond any possible redemption and that conversation is pointless.
That is not what MGTOW means in reality, and you know it. Stop playing coy.