The catarrhine who invented a perpetual motion machine, by dreaming at night and devouring its own dreams through the day.

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  • Following that interpretation, what Yahweh said is a half-truth - because it implies that the fruit itself would cause their death, when it doesn’t. They would eventually die because Yahweh would revoke their immortality, but the fruit itself does what Serpent said that it would, granting them knowledge.

    In the Sumerian story of the gardens of Dilmun, Enki and Ninhursanga, Enki eats of the eight forbidden plants so as to gain knowledge of them

    Great catch - I completely forgot about this myth. I’ve seen a different, but still related version, might as well explore it here:

    • Enki sleeps with Ninhursag, they have Ninšar.
    • Then with Ninšar, they have Ninkurra. As they do it Sweet Home Alabama plays in the background.
    • Then with Ninkurra, and they have Uttu.
    • Then, as Enki sleeps with Uttu, Ninhursag removes Enki’s semen from Uttu’s body and throws on the ground, creating the eight plants that you mentioned.
    • Isimud (Enki’s assistant) uproots those plants and give them to Enki, who eats them - so now he knows the heart and determines the destiny of each plant.
    • Ninhursag gets pissed and then curses Enki, withdrawing her “life-giving eye” from him, so he falls sick.

    Ninhursag governs over the mountains, while the other three goddesses govern human activities (Ninšar and meat cooking, Ninkurra and sculpting, Uttu and weaving). And the later was probably not considered as important as the others, due to the absence of the prefix Nin- “Lady, Mistress”.

    As such, Ninhursag likely governed over wild plants too, like the ones that Enki ate; and, once Enki to control those plants, he was invading her realm. Or, alternatively, by knowing better those plants Enki had a reason to control the mountains, instead of sticking to the wetlands.

    Either way, if the Hebrew myth of Adam and Eve was influenced by this one, suddenly it makes sense why Yahweh punishes Adam and Eve - Yahweh’s realm would be morality, and the couple invaded it.


  • I think that you are reading it right. And while I personally wouldn’t associate obedience with moral “good”, whoever wrote this myth clearly did.

    In fact the whole myth feels like Yahweh creating a successful trap for the couple - the tree is in the garden, but they aren’t supposed to eat from it; the snake was in the garden, but they weren’t supposed to listen to it; and the serpent speaking the truth while Yahweh was being a liar (“you’ll die”… except they didn’t.)



  • I mean that what you call “the solution” (to curate one’s feed) already exists and did not solve the problem for the platform as a whole, as attested by the OP. Because regardless of what you or me think that people “should” do, they’re still browsing by “All” (that’s fine) and then downvoting content geared towards other audiences (that is not fine).

    And it is not just porn; you see the exact same issue with content in other languages. Same deal: the resource exists (you can set up the language of your content, as well as the ones that you want to see) and people still don’t use it.

    You’re suggesting that people should make use of that resource, but our suggestions mean nothing if people won’t follow them. We do need a way to at least encourage the usage of those resources, and discourage this idiotic “this content is not made for ME! ME! ME!, how do they dare? Downvoting time!” tendency.

    Secondly, if the tagged grey area posts reach a wider audience then it doesn’t solve the problem because the problem is that people don’t want to see specific posts in their feed.

    It might not solve the problem but it does alleviate it. There’s a big difference between seeing 10% or 50% of irrelevant content.


  • People who mass downvote, with or without scripts, are better dealt separately - it’s vote manipulation, those people shouldn’t be voting up or down on first place.

    Disagree, the downvoters would just pick a default reason

    You’re still doing two clicks to downvote someone, instead of just one. And in the meantime there’s always some room to think “why am I downvoting this again?”

    And perhaps I’m judging other users too much based on my own usage of the downvote button, but often I’d rather have a way to say why I’m downvoting it - because someone were rude, or because they’re babbling bullshit, etc. I tend to believe that other people are like this too, but perhaps I’m wrong, dunno.

    For reference, Slashdot uses a similar-ish system; except that it does it towards people voting up. I see “types of upvotes” problematic because often good content checks multiple boxes, but the rough idea works.

    Honestly… after reading another guy’s comment, I am more inclined to just say fuck it and say we return to the forums, no upvotes or downvotes, things neatly categorized into their place (specially so sensible things can be hidden but still available) and if someone wants to interact they’d have to comment.

    The problem with this approach is that chronological sorting leads to a lot of trash, as people know that their shitpost will be still highly visible for the others. Kind of like 4chan.



  • Frankly I also browse by “Subscribed”. However that is not an actual solution for the problem, unless you have a sensible way to encourage/force other people to do it.

    Multiple feeds (a la multireddits) is a great idea that pops up often. I hope that the devs are at least considering it.

    While a tag system could achieve something similar I feel like tags would probably be more annoying to use because you’ll be at the mercy of whomever sets the tag.

    The solution doesn’t need to be perfect to be useful. So even if posts within a grey area get tagged in a way that reaches a wider audience than they’re supposed to, it’s fine.



  • The odd part is that in the wild, the kitten doesn’t stay with the mother all that long.

    That reminds me Cruela.

    My cat Kika once got pregnant. We were able to give all kittens new homes, except one - that stayed with us. She grew into adulthood, not only pampered by the humans but also by her mum Kika.

    Cruela would find an open window, take a walk, then come back after a few hours. And then when she was back, she’d ask Kika to be licked. And every single time Kika would lick her manchild womanchild catkitten daughter for a few minutes, then meow angrily and paw her once or twice, as if saying “you’re clean now you adult baby, now sod off!”. Every single time.



  • Then as you ask “provide sources.”, it says simply “Source: Tech Review Websites”. If this came from an actual person I would genuinely ask it “do you take me for gullible trash?”.

    It’s still somewhat useful, due to Google Search crumbling away into nothingness, if you ask “link me five sites with info about [topic]”.



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    Well, Old English baggs to differ. English lost its case markings on articles early on and kept them on nouns a while longer while German kept them on articles and simplified nouns much more early on.

    That is still the determiner, now with an additional function as an article, not an independent article. What I said applies to the article as its own thing, i.e. when “the” and “that” were already independent words - in fact their decoupling is directly tied to the same loss of the endings that caused the morphological case system to go kaboom.

    Again, German didn’t dump anything into articles but rather lost it everywhere else.

    I’m talking about the informational load, you’re talking about the phonetic changes.

    There is this idea that this fostered the process of using der/die/das much more often (which made it from a demonstrative to an article) but I disagree because it was a widespread process, not only in German but in huge parts of Europe, including beside Romance languages also English were this reasoning doesn’t work (as shown above).

    It’s actually both a shift promoted by interactions between languages in the Western European Sprachbund and the result of simple sound changes. Much like a vicious cycle:

    • noun endings get slightly muddier due to syncretism →
    • people rely more on a default word order to convey case →
    • higher usage of demonstratives as “poor man’s article” (definiteness might not be the same as topic, but in a pinch it’s close enough) →
    • poor man’s article becomes an actual article →
    • there’s less pressure to keep the noun endings distinct, thus against sound changes that would merge them →
    • noun endings get slightly muddier due to syncretism

    Higher usage of demonstratives as articles might be also caused by interference of other languages - that guy spamming “that” and “one” in a language will eventually do the same if speaking some another nearby language. And it also explains roughly why German ended as the exception, as it’s right in the middle of the way between “case endings, no articles” Polish and “articles, no case endings” Romance.

    Then, in German you got that weird middle ground where word order still conveys topic, but the noun endings already weren’t conveying the case any more. The info gets dumped in the article - and that prevents further sound changes and regularisation processes from attacking them.




  • Supply demand is king

    No, it is not. Smithsonian economics don’t even work here, due to the network effect causing a vicious cycle: less visibility due to downvotes → lower perceived supply → users look for that content outside Lemmy → less demand for that content → lower actual supply.

    And in this case it’s really bad, because Lemmy is supposed to be welcoming to gay people too, not just heterosexual men like me.

    I dont recon its worked at all its just means people will block the accounts meaning they are memory holed perminantly.

    They block the communities instead, as it’s easier than blocking individual posters. And, frankly, it’s a better approach than downvoting the content as it discourages it from being shared.



  • Seriously, English has its flaws, but the simplification of article adjectives is one area where it shines.

    When it comes to the articles themselves, it’s less that English simplified them and more that it never developed case marks for them. For example, when se→þē split into what’s today “the” and “that”, that “the” was already invariable.

    In contrast, not only German repurposed the demonstrative “der” (that, which, who) into an article in a cleaner way, but it’s also dumping most grammatical case info into the article - so it’s bound to preserve a lot more forms for them. (It still simplified them a bit though. Compare this with this).

    [Sorry for hopping in to nerd out about language.]