Delta Chat was one of the FOSS projects affected: https://chaos.social/@delta/114211300446944585

I would say this is the normal behavior and without this apps wouldn’t work properly or connect in background, ex. to receive messages in chat apps and display a notification ex. when the system wakes them up via push notifications

I already explained in my previous message how it is different from Signal, time to read buddy, bye

Meanwhile me not giving a F about this news because I use CalyxOS and the feature to auto-restart the phone on inactivity with fine customizable time and not a fixed 3 days exist since a long time already there

The purpose is already said in the title: private chats for the family

How you don’t understand the use case of chatting with the family?

As many other chat apps out there, if you meant the “why this one and not X?” Well there are other acceptable options out there, the advantage of this one compared to WhatsApp, Telegram and co. Is that it doesn’t depend on phone numbers or any private data, getting started with the app is painless and smooth, no SMS verification no captcha solving or complex registration, just set your name and start chatting. It is decentralized and anonymous, while having a nice polished UI easy to use on the level of WhatsApp and Telegram, unlike most other alternatives out there

One special feature is the ability to use in-chat mini-apps that are completely “p2p e2ee” between chat members without depending on any server hosting it and working offline first, among such apps: collaborative editor pads, checklists/to-do lists, shopping lists, split bills with friends, chess and other mini-games etc

FairMail is for classic unsecure email, DeltaChat is for secure end-to-end encrypted chatting

Delta Chat no where to be found there 🤔

No, it is not. 🚮

In iOS you can use Delta Chat (https://delta.chat/) ArcaneChat is a Delta Chat client

thanks for the help! (btw, it is not only mastodon.social, ex. see this post https://social.wake.st/@liaizon/114200292372832736)

It is also possible to run GUI desktops in Termux since ages, for example take a look at:

AnLinux (Run Linux On Android Without Root Access) https://f-droid.org/packages/exa.lnx.a/

It was also possible to run a “full Debian” using PRoot etc

thanks, I think I know that one, but yeah as you said it is not a real security audit and the person itself said so

thanks!

could you provide some source/link to the SimpleX security audits? I would like to look into it, thanks in advance!

does Briar has security audits you could point to? thanks in advance

does that one has security audits? thanks in advance

and the thing is: Telegram having a proprietary server feels more opensource and open to 3rd party clients and developers (ex. bots, mini-apps etc) than Signal, Signal’s issue tracker has a bot auto-closing stale issues and several people are completely ignored, never receive a reply

I highly recommend you to give a try to https://arcanechat.me/ (I am the developer) it is heavily inspired by Telegram, if you want to test it you can join this community group: https://i.delta.chat/#6CBFF8FFD505C0FDEA20A66674F2916EA8FBEE99=&a=invitebot%40nine.testrun.org&g=ArcaneChat+Community&x=3KvvQZfzU4t-9u5s0PF3USGp&i=AQKH9_8x0R0&s=dbGW9xOhRQX

Threema is paid (registration tied to payment is already bad for privacy, most people will not register with some crypto-coin etc) and centralized, any centralized service is vulnerable to enshitification, none of them start evil, also it is easier to block by authoritarian governments and can’t be used in a sovereign/independent way (ex. own independent server in a local community)

Session: it has been a long time since I last used Session, at the time my impression was that it was a bit hacky and it was draining my battery and using a lot of mobile data, more importantly Session doesn’t seem to have multi-account support, also doesn’t seem to support using your own independent server “off-the-grid”. Session groups have a limit of only 100 members while in ArcaneChat groups can have 1000 members for now (or even more depending on the server you use, ex. your own)

none of them have in-chat collaborative/interactive apps (ex. collaborative editor, calendar, shopping lists, split bills, polls, etc.) and games that can be used even while offline

I like SIP and XMPP, but in practice I don’t have any contacts to use it and the apps are lacking a bit compared to ArcaneChat/DeltaChat, besides the problem of losing groups because the XMPP server went down etc. there are some downsides but yes, if I was not satisfied with ArcaneChat I would use XMPP and SIP, or anything that is open source, decentralized and doesn’t require a phone number

Nice! 🤩