Promethiel

Are we sure OP isn’t being meta? The message and demographics change if the punch is coming from other community posters.

In case your statement wasn’t actually carefully crafted to make your point (kudos if so!): Yeah, you got it right.

That was a post correctly identifying the problem of the decades long rising anti-intellectualism cultured amidst the populace (See Carl Sagan’s excellent and chillingly prescient “I have a foreboding of an America in my children’s or grandchildren’s time…” quote).

Said post then really had the gall to not just take all agency from the willfully ignorant alongside their responsibility, but it then goes further to state that the fault lies with the non-willfully ignorant.

Then it suggests that the non-willfully ignorant are in fact being willfully ignorant to the fact that they have to (I had to pause and re-read here, the weight of the author’s cojones was throwing me off) locate simpler and/or rougher folk more like ‘The Midwestern’ to do the messaging in a more “relatable” (air quotes) way.

I admit, my born and raised through the abject poverty and bare unfinished construction found the world around from the Favelas to the heights of Appalachia was quite “ready to slap a smarmy ass city fucker” by the end there.

But then I realized: If not maliciously posted then clearly they may not realize it. They may actually think that the miseducation, furthering divide, and increasing tensions amongst those who consider themselves team “knows better about feelings” and those who consider themselves team “feels better about knowing” have anything to do with the direct interactions between the two groups, and not the reality: The messaging being bought and paid for.

Who benefits from the poors not realizing that the scope and limits of their wits are quite the same human potential as the inhabit of any gilded tower?

That post was saying that intelligence and fact-finding is making people feel stupid and attacked, but it failed to correctly attribute that to the fact that people are being told and taught to feel that way, as part of the ever present real issue.

That is what being willfully ignorant of the fact you’re carrying water for the sick and mentally twisted Billionaires who remember the human mental potential and must live constantly suppressing it in terror of the alternative, looks like.

People are supposed to include the fact that the pencil can go through because (layman terminology abuse ahead) of the “shape” the space-time topology is presenting (or I guess being induced to present as, if Sci-fi hypothetical) before you get to the explanation of the pencil as craft/observer and how the hole is how that shortened path through the wormhole appears from frames of reference not the pencil.

I like the bagel idea but then you have to hold it all horizontal while explaining so they don’t see the hole too early and you’re then just left intently staring at your audience across a bagel held at eye height like a slowly hungering loon. Or so I’ve heard.

But neither of you know that. That’s just the most anecdotally likely. You’re doing the same thing as the presumably real friend is doing: discounting the reality OP is saying they’re experiencing (they don’t feel like celebrating currently because ofcurrent affairs) and replacing it with head in the sand “touch grass” disguised with the words it takes for you to feel like you’re correct.

Maybe that friend always has their head in the sand. Maybe that friend is maliciously giddy about the possibilities espoused by shit like Project 2025 and deflecting.

I, am hoping you can both understand I’m saying you look like hypocrites. No inference needed.

How do you select the worthwhile content without the use of your opinion or taking the matter to your tastes?

We need to return to preindustrial population levels so the animals can too.

What exactly are you proposing?

You haven’t experienced slow until you try to take Firefox through Google Cloud Console or Search Tools. 15 seconds in Chrome, somehow turns into 3 minutes in Firefox, funny how it does that.

It’s nuts how much of all of ‘it’ (where ‘it’ is all fuckery) is simply down to that fact. Selfish altruism ought to be obvious.

Yeah caffeine is a siren song for a select few. It’s not necessarily an ‘everyone and every form of ADHD thing’, but it seems to present together often enough.

In my case it’s tricksy because the line between “this much coffee will help sleep” and “this much coffee will make you feel like it re-activated the magic conversion machine the actual ADHD meds just shut down” is about 1 oz one way or another from a 5oz cup (a real small amount in sane units, I didn’t convert).

Your Honor, if I may Devil’s Advocate for that other poster;

To be the victim of a callous system designed with apathy at best and cruelty at worst…

and to be a profound fool who never picks up any chance to put two neurons together to a task however many chances are given…

Is not mutually exclusive. 🤣. You might even be acquainted with a few folks miraculously barely navigating the concrete jungle already.

It’s always a tragic story from some angle, but empathy doth need a break sometimes, that’s why we developed humor to uncomfortably bridge the gap.

Don’t Zoom and Drive people, court or not.

Sensible. One taught you the consensus on what is perceived as the benchmark mind so to speak and a subset of how it ‘may go wrong’.

ADHD memes demonstrates just how much more ‘hold my beer’ that hole of ‘may go wrong’ gets.

Which is to say a lot. Hearing about the human condition vs seeing it echo in all the clucking time blind chickens.

Like most “but why US” questions, the answer starts with ‘M’ and rhymes with ‘oney’.

The dairy lobby is powerful in the US, for reasons I’ve never bothered to look into the few times one of their tantrums end up on the news.

It’s a matter of the Nexus of regulatory capture, unrestricted money in politics, and historic Inertia is my surface understanding of why ‘Dairy’ is such a bristly thing here.

For some, a temporary lack of self growth; for others, certain mental illnesses. It’s as awful as it sounds if you really sit and imagine. The self awareness needed to rise above some of that? Many will live and die never having reached it.

The misguided brain can hang itself up on nearly anything, and for many it’s the semblance of validation. There is quantifiable pain behind the need to interact for some people.

They don’t even realize the absurdity of the example. I’d wager that after spouse and/or deity, you can ask the world’s top 10 writers who their favorite person is and they’ll name their editors/someone of significance to the revision process (we know or can guess at least one reason to revise text, eh?)

We’re so bad at gauging tone throughout text that wars have sparked, entire industries eat, and people make a living on precisely how to phrase things in official writing. But no, Internet commenter says just grab random books and go to town y’all 🤣

The problem my agnostic ass meets with good ol’ Epi is the disingenuousness inherent in assuming “Godly” rationale to “human logic” semantics. My dude, people can’t agree on human meaning and I’m supposed to make assumptions on God?

Why test if It knows the result of the test?

Geez Epic Manster, I know they didn’t have spring mattresses in your day but the mattress factory also knows the result my mattress should have gotten at testing but tested it anyways…because the testing provides the necessary shape.

I still maintain my agnosticism and keep my two extremes whenever I don’t feel like just being sure it’s all bullshit anyways:

If God exists, it doesn’t care for our suffering for reasons wholly beyond us (like a greater suffering of its own and why not, it’s shit all the way down).

God exists, cares, is a bit sad, but we’re all fucking mattresses where the cosmos is gonna poke, prod, and simulate fucking atop of us until we reach the appropriate factory required settings.

I already had coffee tho, so the middle atheist ground is in effect; none of it real, nothing matters except trying to not be total cockwaffles so everyone else can enjoy their nihilism too.

1. Retaliation has a meaning that does not have bearing here; mens rea for that cannot be established under the circumstances.

2. Level of reciprocity in force has always mattered; at least we’re not under Hammurabi’s anymore.

3. The prosecutor’s office in the referenced discussion disagrees with you and you are making claims and not arguments.

If you can trust the human monkeys with the “shaping” of a rock that got us here, how you gonna distrust the widdle trivial matter of taking little bits of something and splitting them.

It’s shaped charges, it’s totally fine and sane. I’d happily get on the 1,000th Orion flight*.

*Only if that’s a fresh hull

This. Nowhere is the paradox of tolerance more dangerous than around “ableism” issues; people gotta learn to keep their targets sighted on the actual scum Insidiously using empathy to cross purposes.

The rightfully tolerant protector of the less able does not argue against the Nazi arguing he should be able to punch people without repercussions, they punch the Nazi until he shuts up and go back to equity for everyone else with a clean conscience.

Don’t tolerate the intolerant; don’t shield them with the benefit of the doubt or stop those with the conviction to stand up for those being told to sit either.

Nearly every word that means something similar to “in actual fact” undergoes this semantic drift (actually, really, etc).

I looked into this for 3 minutes and found examples in multiple languages.

Neat.

New expression-insight remix into the human condition connected; We literally really actually feel the need to be sure we’re understood, no matter the hyperbolic lengths gone to, huh?

This was amazing. Thank you so much for taking the time to write it all out! I really do have no reason to not dual boot. I only have one site community to manage, and I had help with the original configuration so my exposure to Linux has mostly been the occasional CentOS foray to update the stack throughout the years and start a few experiments that fizzled (but not that backup script! Woo!). I guess seeing it all in one place is just what I needed; there’s no reason to give it a VM a try. I already got WSL installed to “try Ubuntu” I told myself, but well, didn’t have much of a project to try. Your “essay” was the information I needed to get me to just give dual booting a try, work on daily driving it (I write as a hobby, and I heard there’s a trillion of good open source note apps out there, so there’s mini-project one, get a dual boot and a basic “Music,coffee,notes,wordprocessor” no-frills inst–Oh, I see how it starts with y’all. Thanks for your time, truly!

Edit: Missed important word.