https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/577171

“Wokeness” is a campaign by the global classical liberal pette bourgeois, mainly orchestrated by Russia, and American and British classical liberals. The social reaction appears to be in response to multiculturalism with a particularly outright rejection of LGBT (lgb T <- !! ) culture instilled by neoliberalism. It’s an extension of their economic interests, however they confuse this popularization of the LGBT by neoliberal big bourgeoisie with LGBT itself. Unsurprisingly they do not study history. Why this is particularly dangerous is the relative success neoliberalism has had via LGBT virtue signalling, making the LGBT a comfortable scapegoat for the classical liberal pette bourgeois (the pette bourgeois in general being the historic base for fascism)

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I wonder if Brian learned anything from this colossal betrayal of trust

Context:

→ “International con-man Brian Becker, another leader in the American anti-war movement, was a part of Muhammad Ali’s visit. His account emphasizes how much the visit was “a threat” to the US government and proved how “negotiations were clearly available as a means to prevent war.” Just because parts of the US government ‘denounced the trip’ does not prove anything at all.

This point is evidenced by a 1995 US Navy paper titled Persian Gulf Hostages: A Case Study in Terrorism, Diplomacy, and Strategy which details the United States hostage policy at the time. It had to maintain the facade of non-negotiation to “be tough on terrorists” while engaging in under the table diplomacy to release said hostages. The paper also details that while the US and UK publicly maintained rhetoric that they would bomb Iraq despite the presence of hostages, this was an empty threat. In essence, the United States needed the hostages released while also saving face. The reality is that these anti-war activists did the work of the US government by taking hard power away from the Iraqi government. This is regardless of whether they were acting on behalf of the US government (although, evidence indicates they likely were). Joseph Wilson notes in the same interview that:

“We were successful in getting one or two hostages out every time, and we would try to load up hostages onto every American who came out. It didn’t make any difference to us. The more, the merrier. If we could get 10 out with [boxer] Muhammad Ali, if they promised us 10 we’d go for 12.”

In December, Saddam Hussein let the remaining British and Americans leave Kuwait. We Are The Mighty magazine (affiliated with the US military) praises Muhammad Ali for “freeing the hostages” and notes that he received the Presidential Medal of Freedom for his actions.

Muhammad Ali (center) and the remaining 15 American hostages leaving Iraq on December 2nd, 1990.

Saddam Hussein gave up the hostages, his insurance against American invasion, based on lies. In January 1991, only six weeks after releasing the American hostages, under the guise of the United Nations Security Council an American-led coalition would begin a horrific bombing campaign and invasion of Iraq.”

A strike I admire since it is in opposition to AI generated content. One of the mods makes a good point when they point out Stack Exchange is a site which is designed around real, substantive, quality answers from real professionals in their fields answering questions with the upmost truth. They go on to explain that AI functions as a parrot (not unlike radlibs who follow the CIAs every word) uncritically forwarding information regardless of it’s accuracy or even logical sense, which contradicts the site’s current purpose in the information space. They go on to say this would reduce the value of the site to 0. I believe it would simply transform the site into Facebook without families. (All bullshit, no IRL social connection)

Regardless, solidarity with the striking workers.

We do as we’ve always done, and because it is our interests we represent, not the bourgeois’.

Get some sleep comrade, we all get this way some times

Study and play to your strengths. If you’re someone people lean on for help, help them understand the real causes of their misery. If you’re someone who is good at math, perhaps create propaganda which demonstrates the math of capitalism and socialism. If you’re someone who is popular perhaps educate your peers. Etc…

You are young and likely still requiring essential education and to develop experience. The job of the youth is always learn and socialize no matter what form society takes. Simply apply Marxism to this paradigm 👍

“As Marxists we must oppose everything the west approves of and approve of everything the west opposes”?

TIL Marxism is when contrarianism

Thank you for sharing this. Black Americans are forced down the race rabbit hole because the settler whites (MAGA, the middle class, the racist pigs, etc…) drag you down it. I understand you see things as race for survival. Do you recognize that the slavery economic mode of production from which their terror originates has passed and we are in the capitalist mode of production and with it capitalist relations to the means of production?

This means that the only escape from this terrorism this racist tyranny, is through a working class revolution. America has never had a feudal mode of production. It is likely that if we were to go the way of barbarism here at the point of capitalist crisis instead of socialism, we could very well see slavery come back. This being the backfoot of the bourgeoisie is likely how these settlers still persist similar to how the remnants of the Russian Empire (White Army) persisted in Soviet Russia.

I cannot simply waive my mouse and like magic this contradiction of needing the non-black working class and not trusting the non-black working class will be resolved. I simply as that you listen to the points I’ve made. The rest is a matter of struggle and solidarity within our class.

Thank you comrade

Browns combined the right and the left into a political leadership over the country, Shea is speaking of bolstering the anti-war movement’s numbers and thus power with the right instead.

“that “these people aren’t interested in liberation, they’re only out for self and for kin.””

This is not how he comes off to me but you are entitled to your opinion.

“I am still not convinced that concepts like Haywood’s Black Belt Republic aren’t the direction my folk should be going in”

Black Americans do not have the numbers to accomplish such a task as a Black Republic and hold it without the US bourgeois state along with the Canadian lapdog seizing the land back. This just isn’t realistic. If you want your people to be free, socialism is the best way to achieve such goals because it takes into account the interests of all workers equally. It does not cater only to the needs of black workers, no, however this is not something Marxism aims to do.

“definitely won’t long-knife y’all when your usefulness is through”, that tells me that your movement is predicated on anyone else’s sacrifice but your own, and leaves me considering you as deeply unserious to the point of being literally hazardous to any oppressed folk in your orbit.”

I understand your distrust however I remind you that even utilizing race relations analytics defensively is still viewing the world on terms of race. Marx shows us that method of analysis is useless, it is one which serves to create and then re-enforce capitalism.

“have helped the state’s aims. What the state wants is the narrative precedents required for carrying out these indictments, and all the future repression that’s been made possible by these actions.”

A shocking number of comrades fall for this fear stoking. Did the Bolsheviks hide from the might of the Czarist regime or did they go through it? One’s organizing cannot avoid the inevitable, that is idealism. Our class will respond and the bourgeois’ state will to our response and so on. That is the nature of conflict, of dialectical development. Of course no one says toss strategy aside, however using fear as a crutch simply cripples us.

“Unlike the CIA, which operates with a scary level of undemocratic impunity, the DOJ can only function as long as there’s enough popular will to support its activities, or at least enough of an absence of organized opposition.”

Not at all. The bourgeois state as a whole operates with undemocratic impunity. Do not allow yourself to become diluted with the lies of “democracy” or “freedom” under capitalism, these are methods of control. The way in which we approach the DOJ should be no different than the CIA.

“By targeting RAWM with unprincipled criticisms, then refusing to properly investigate what RAWM’s nature and purpose truly are, the sectarian elements in our movement have helped let the DOJ feel comfortable enough to carry out this attack against freedom of speech and assembly.” I can see where he is coming from however he arrives here in an interesting manner.

“But if these pro-Russian orgs are the ones that should be distrusted so intensely, why have the anti-Russian orgs been so silent on the DOJ’s actions? What’s more opportunistic than refusing to challenge the DOJ out of expediency?”

Not a great argument but yes.

“The reason why there’s such a lack of principle within the left, and within the parts of the communist movement that view “the left” as the only element of the people worth trying to reach, is that in the imperial center there’s an incentive for leftists not to prioritize winning. Most of what we in America call the left isn’t actually concerned about victory, or else the class struggle would by now at the least be in a vastly more advanced stage. What it’s primarily concerned with is engaging in “movementism,” where actors build political projects as an end in itself. Or with building platforms within the “left” discourse spaces, wherein one can only maximize one’s popularity by adhering to a set of approved ideas. Trying to fit into such an insular and toxic environment is not conducive to a serious type of Marxist analysis. At best, it allows for selectively using quotes from Marxist theorists to support one’s assertions, while ignoring the parts of this theory which vindicate stances that challenge the circle’s beliefs.”

He’s 100% correct. What the American left is infected with is ultraleft pette bourgeois-minded (immature, concerned with popularity instead of factual soundness) under-developed workers who either have not or can not developed their commitment to the cause to maturity (towards principled Marxism), instead merely dipping their toes into the revolutionary lake as it were. These workers must become more serious and dedicated to the cause, and as the contradictions sharpen they will however a spade must be called a spade.

" Lenin provided a proper perspective for what relatively small societal elements these insular spaces represent, saying the parts of the labor movement which ally with imperialism are the “privileged minority” of well-bribed workers."

Yes, the labor aristocracy. Specifically opportunistic labor aristocrats. These too infect the left and have since Lenin’s time.

“Just because somebody is on the left of the political spectrum, or purports to be the most “radical,” doesn’t mean they’re compatible with revolutionary politics. Given the insidious influence the Democratic Party has over the left, and how easy it is for the “ultra” lefts to aggressively side against anti-imperialist stances out of misplaced righteousness, these types can be among the most dangerous. We need to build connections with those who are most compatible with the pro-Russia, pro-China, and otherwise revolutionary orientations. Not with the “left” actors who will betray the class struggle as soon as they find a contradiction in one of the countries that’s fighting U.S. hegemony.”

This paragraph and the one prior to it…I would appreciate if he specified who he is suggesting we focus on. Pro-Russia one can think of conservatives, but who is pro-China or China orientated aside from us?

Overall I concur with comrade Shea, in the anti-war front, as I’ve stated before on this matter, a broad coalition benefits the cause over a sectarian one. I am more skeptical over his inclusion of those types for the revolution however that is a separate matter.

In Shea’s defence, PCUSA and CPI (with all of it’s flaws) are 2 of the only genuinely anti-imperialist parties in the states. And it’s no surprise they are attacked as such. Although personally I would keep CPI at an arms distance with a gun trained on them at all times. Maupin has extremely troubling views, however like MAGA in terms of the Russia war, they can be counted on to oppose ukrainian nazism which makes them beneficial to an anti-war movement so long as it is within the Russian front stage.

So we’ve touched on the decolonizing the US part of this article a lot, but I want to talk about the drugs for a moment.

Comrade Shea is 100% based on this imo and as well I would like to add a sort of ‘other side of the coin’ aspect to this conversation.

While drugs which illicit an extreme response such as hard illegal ones do are undoubtedly harmful to our cause as currently the contradictions are so that drugs are not required to “wake” a liberal prol out of their fantasy (they do have their uses in certain scenarios), prescription psychoactive drugs of a mild variety can play a limited beneficial role.

Antidepressants and other medications, while in many cases are damaging to the body, can artificially stabilize a prol enough to be able to study, plan, and learn. However, this does cause dependence upon the pharmaceutical industry and in turn upon legal society which could become detrimental later on although there are ways around this issue.

I think these should be used wisely and phased out over time if appropriate as deemed by scientists under socialist economy.

These topics being brought up in this article should be addressed as should all other aspects of neoliberal culture which have largely gotten grandfathered into our own as our base model. We know for sure where we stand on minority worker’s needs, I believe we should work to iron out the logistics of what exactly 21st century predominately western proletarian culture is, and reject outright what has been dictated to us by the bourgeois class. Yes it will be controversial but so long as we show each other respect, solidarity, and participate in good faith we will gain more answers than headaches.

While I respect your willingness to call a spade a spade as you see something as such, I have to disagree with much of what you have said. I’m unfamiliar with Sakai, however comrade Shea does not come off as a settler-minded person to me. I will also note that although there are far less minorities in the bourgeois class, there still are some, and so a race-based analysis will not suffice here as a shortcut towards class, nor should it even if this were the case as liberalism is the ideology which views the world according to conqueror v conquered constantly seeking exploitation of another, as Marxists we view the world through dialectical materialist and historical development - the clashing of opposites based on their contradictions to create a new tomorrow, not the outright rejection of a portion of that synthesis.

It wasn’t “defeated by republicans” it was declared by the bourgeoisie. Both parties are sockpuppets for capital’s interests. If the democrats were to fight at all it would only be in a situation where their defeat is ensured so as to appear to be for our interests yet never actually are.

Phrasing this as it is now is nothing but “red team blue team” politics and perpetuates the charade of bourgeois democracy.

My thoughts? There’s not enough of it. Also that this type of media is new so it will take years for it to be finely tuned. The results from consuming proletarian media should be:

• increased class consciousness
• increased understanding of Marxist political theory
• reduced apathy
• increased organizing via it’s consumers

Lastly, organizations responsible for this content have a class responsibility to maintain their class membership. As commodities become popular under capitalism, companies which produce it grow and as they do so their class membership changes from proletarian to labor aristocrat or even bourgeoisie. Marxist economic organizing of these organizations are required to keep them “true to their word and goals” so to speak.