Liberals: this is a difficult situation and it’s not one which has an easy solution

Communists: genocide is an easy solution lol

Capitalism is the worst way to run an economy. Except, of course, all other ways which have been tried.

So you admit that they are legitimate targets.

If a hospital is being used as a staging point for military forces, it’s a legitimate military target. That’s why militarizing hospitals is wrong.

The health ministry

(Hamas)

The question was pretty stupid, but I thought I’d still answer it. There’s no way a foreign power would be able to build a hostile military base on US soil

Dude they did a fucking video tour of a military base built into a hospital, do you seriously not know anything at all about this topic?

Also no they’re not the better perks here, they’ve killed ten times as many civilians

You say this as of Hamas’s casualty figures they relate via the Gaza health ministry mean anything. Hell, they probably include the people Hamas has killed to prevent them from fleeing the conflict zone.

Not if it is also a hospital. Then cutting off supplies is fucking disgusting

And necessary. This is why turning hospitals into military bases is a war crime. If you’re offended at military actions taken against hospitals, talk to Hamas about it.

They are doing a genocide

See, you’re deluding yourself into pretending they’re genocidal. That’s the difference here. I live in reality.

If the hospital is a military base, it makes sense that supplies would be cut off to it.

There’s no way to escape the fact that war is terrible. But we do have things called the rules of war which brings the horrible nature of it down a couple notches. Driving around military forces under a red cross is a war crime, pure and simple, for exactly this reason - if a military force doesn’t have the honor to respect the sanctity of lifesaving medical care, then they’re going to make every medical center into a potential target for attack.

I am not a fan of everything Israel has done, but they’re clearly the better people in this scenario.

What?

Yeah if somehow Al Qaeda turned the world trade center into a military base it would be a military target.

The point is that militarizing emergency equipment causes civilian casualties by turning medical facilities into legitimate military targets

This is why it’s a war crime to use hospitals as military bases. And ambulances as military transports.

I, uhh, okay, that’s a little extreme

We are all going to die anyways. I’ll switch to an electric car as soon as I can but it doesn’t work for my job, with the current vehicles out there.

The 1948 war was started by Arabs who rejected the partition plan. Israel won that. Vae victis, don’t start wars if you’re not prepared to deal with the consequences.

You’re right that Israel has been stealing land - in the West Bank, via illegal settlements. They should withdraw those settlers, but it is irrelevant to the issue of Hamas because the last settlements in Gaza were demolished in 2005.

I’m not pro Israel. What I am is someone who is anti Hamas, and I’m not going to pretend that the Israelis are chuckling monsters who enjoy murdering babies for the fun of it.

I’m paying $3.19 at the pump. That’s pretty damn good

Well, I would say as few as reasonably possible to eliminate Hamas.

If Israel was mass murdering people, this would be very, very different. We don’t know how many people have died, but we do know that Israel has been taking significant steps to avoid collateral damage, and we know that has been frustrated by war crimes perpetrated by Hamas (using ambulances as military transport, using hospitals as military bases, shooting civilians who try to leave the conflict zone) so I’m not sure what you want for me.

I want Israel to take reasonable actions to limit civilian casualties while they prosecute the war against Hamas which Hamas started and is continuing. I want that war to end immediately, but I recognize it can only reasonably end with either Hamas surrendering or Hamas being degraded past the point of it being a threat.

They’re the ones with control over the course of the war and how long it will take before it ends. They are the ones who control how many Palestinians die, at least until and unless Palestinians get tired of falling victim to the violence Hamas inflicts on them and does something about them.

That’s a question only Hamas can answer

Well, since Israel is the party which is defending itself, they have the right to go after Hamas. And since Hamas hides among civilians, if the civilians of Gaza get tired of falling victim to collateral damage, they should talk to Hamas about it.