I think the downfall of BCU is going to be a good thing for the NDP overall.

The BC Conservatives are only going to be taking the nuts from the BCU and leaving everyone else behind due to their incredibly extreme views on everything from climate change to reproductive rights.

No one from the center is going hard right and it would be incredibly shocking if the BC Conservatives managed to win any real number of seats with their bat shit crazy platform.

Like I thought, you’re misunderstanding what you’re reading.

Like I thought, you have nothing meaningful to say. I won’t waste further time with you.

Yes. Things can be infinitely recyclable. But since you’re such an expert. Tell me, what part of a lithium atom degrades during its life as a battery? I’m not expecting a good answer from you though since you think that burning a compound (to release the energy in its bonds) is then recyclable.

No, nothing can be recycled to infinite. It is asinine to even attempt to assert that.

But since you’re such an expert. Tell me, what part of a lithium atom degrades during its life as a battery?

Recycling Lithium batteries recovers approximately 20-96% of materials. This means best case scenario, which is not the norm in battery recycling, every time a battery is recycled 4% of the materials are lost.

Doesn’t take a math genius to see how quickly finite resources dry up with a 4% loss every single time a batteries life ends.

I’m not expecting a good answer from you though since you think that burning a compound (to release the energy in its bonds) is then recyclable.

Funny because I never said gas was recyclable. You should learn to read before you try to make snide comments.

I hope the simple math and explaination I used is understandable to you, but I am not expecting much.

Health and Environmental Concerns

Despite the positive outlooks on battery recycling, negative effects also have been shown to impact developing nations that recycle batteries, especially those with lead and lithium.

Lead is a highly toxic substance, and processing it can result in pollution and contamination of people, resulting in long-term health problems and even disability.[59][33] According to one ranking, lead-acid battery recycling is, by far, the most deadly industrial process, globally, in terms of Disability-adjusted life years lost—costing between 2,000,000 and 4,800,000 estimated lost years of individual human life.[60]

Since 2015, developing nations like Vietnam have increased their battery processing capacity as global demand for batteries has grown. The process for recycling batteries often leads to toxic metals being introduced into the environment. In many of these nations, there are little protections available for workers working with the batteries.[3] In nations like Indonesia, it was reported that over a span of four years, battery recycler’s blood lead levels almost doubled.[61] Lead exposure to workers can also be transmitted to family members away from work, ultimately leading to lead poisoning. [62]

More studies continue to be conducted to gather an understanding of environmental impacts. Studies show that most lithium-ion batteries contain Per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances (PFAS). PFAS accumulates in humans and wildlife, often leading to immune and thyroid disfunctions, liver diseases, and other issues relating to homeostasis inside of the body.[63] Lead contamination of neighborhoods has resulted from the process of recycling lead batteries. In 1992, the EPA reported 29 lead-recycling sites were on the EPA’s Superfund clean-up list, 22 of them on their “National Priority List.”[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_recycling#Lithium_ion_batteries

I do hope you go from laughter to sadness expeditiously and never recover. :)

After which they are essentially infinitely recyclable.

Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing, is “infinitely recyclable”. Literally defies physics.

Lets also not forget that oil is recyclable.

Oh no! Whatever will I do?

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The fact that you believe renewable energy sources have no environmental impact demonstrates to me the need to no longer speak with you. My brain can take only so much ignorance and green washing is my line today.

Not your friend for one. For the other, I don’t need to “bring the receipts” to demonstrate that mining and battery production is not good for the environment.

Anyone who needs that is too mentally feeble to be a part of this discussion and should recuse themselves for their own safety.

Why are people so mad that batteries are better than dead dinosaur farts? What is the weird obsession with burning ooze and gasses from mother earth? We have better options?

Does it hurt being this ignorant or is it truly as blissful as they say?

The fact that you don’t understand battery materials are pulled from the ground in much the same way that oil and gas is speaks volumes about value of your opinions.

Are you under the impression that we use NMC batteries for grid energy storage?? LOL

Sure is weird how you think you are owning me here while ignoring the fact that all batteries have an environmental impact and Lithium is one of the worst when it comes to battery components that are incredibly costly to the environments where it is mined, which is the main component in batteries used for grid storage.

“LOL”

I enjoy how much effort it takes to ignore how batteries are produced in order to argue for them in a comparison with natural gas.

It really is too bad about the weak life cycle, poor charge/discharge rate, and incredibly low voltage that begin the story of “Why don’t we just use sodium ion batteries?” and place it directly in the “tragedy” section of the book store.

Typically not by injecting toxic carcinogens into the ground to do so, like we do with fracking.

Also I’ve not heard of any strip mining activities that turn a town’s only water supply into something that’s flammable, but I perhaps missed that?

Or the ongoing incidents of child and adult cancer caused by this itty bitty little toxic waste issue.

No need to flat out lie in order to make a point.

Unless you want to honestly double down on the “I am so ignorant that I honestly believe mines do not contaminate surrounding areas” card you should take off for the day, rest up, and try again tomorrow bud.

I just want to be clear that no one, especially me, asked you either.

Batteries have infinite energy now? No storage issues due to electrical surges, heat, cold, or anything else that makes batteries sub optimal? While seemingly by magic, mining rare earth minerals spreads its environmental impact over 10-15 years of the lifetime of the battery with 0 negative impact to the area the mine is located?

Oh wait… None of that is true so I guess you can try again.

Good thing no one asked you eh?

Because if they did they would be a fucking idiot because you aren’t OP, and probably shouldn’t be asking third parties for 1st party opinions. ;)

Do you want the math or would you prefer less reading and more pictures?

Nothing like an ignoramus to try and make someone else feel stupid for asking a question.

Since you are all knowing, explain to me exactly how deep earth mining is less costly and better for the environment than deep earth drilling.

Or did you think we just magically pull batteries from thin air at 0 cost?

Cool story. How do we pull rare earth minerals, needed for batteries, from the ground?