We agree that the current situation won’t change itself, and change to this system from inside of it would likely be stifled and repressed.

I agree that we need to keep trying to find a better way, because there are many people are will certainly keep trying to make things worse for us.

The first step is a better way to communicate between ourselves about what we want, why we want it, and how to enact our intentions.

With the advent and use of the internet we now have the possibility for a new way to organize our collective wants.

This system, which I call a consensus engine, would let us as a species make long term goals and work towards their fruition. Without some way to communicate that is less sustainable to misinformation I don’t see any way we can get out of this into something better.

PBS Space Time is pretty great

I’d say there is a huge amount of bots, then the smart bots, then the actual shills. The smarter ones run complex operations and are able to use their own power to self propel their own stories. And there are a lot of similar ‘power users’ who are not wholly paid for by someone but would do work for the highest bidder. I’d bet that yes, 50% of what’s on the front page of major things is reputation management or Hail Corporate stuff, then I’d wager the mostly less popular stuff is actual people, with a ton of bad posts from all sides at the low popularity

But what is unique is the fact that we have an extremely well preserved corpus of text surrounding him.

IIFC all those writing are dated to well after the life time, like 100 year past it or so. It may be a bunch of written things but there is no/little reason to take those writings as anything but written down stories.

Ever play Telephone with a single word for 5 minutes? Now do that to a epic for 100 years, the end result will certainly be something but it may be nothing like the truth

Sounds like the CCP approach to twain with the "but a ‘kingdom’ in the past had this territory so we are entitled to it.

fuck all these ‘tribalism’ promotion posts, we should be finding ways to work together. Lisa, you’re tearing me apart!

Do you have a written summary of that? I hate watching videos, and the dark forest book was fun but without a clue I don’t understand the change to internet

Rate those places online to warn others. fucking hailCorporate nonsense

Did they even contribute any meaningful technology discoveries or anything in the field?

Two things be both be true at the same time you know. Also you may not have a firm grasp on geopolitics if you think some elected guy in the USA can literally stop and change other people’s minds and actions in a magical way then you’ll struggle to get any point across to anyone who doesn’t also believe in magic.

What’s happening is that when things act as an ad they fulfill the same marketing purpose as a paid advertisement. Just because it happened to you, doesn’t mean talking about it online is not marketing in its effect. But I see where you’re coming from.
This idea is like thinking that people with shirt with huge brand names on them are helping to raise that brand’s awareness level with others. Things can be more than one thing at the same time.

From the headline photo only I couldn’t tell how this worked. Cooling looking if nothing else

but sounded correct to someone who didn’t know better

specious /spē′shəs/ adjective

Having the ring of truth or plausibility but actually fallacious.
"a specious argument."

and then the real answer will be hidden or something silly, or in some cases where money is involved the correct answer might have been removed

They have probably only provided a small amount of available data, and have much more data, of different type.

Yes we’ve got the data, but now we need it from different angles!

They’ve finally gone full /HailCorporate, become the thing some of the original people of the site would probably not have agreed with in many ways

We all agree with this premise and mostly that the FPTP system is a large contributing factor to the TPS saying how it has based on seeing how places that don’t have a TPS appear to do so because the have different voting systems like different iterations of ranked choice voting.

What I am wondering is what ‘we’ think the best way to implement voting would be?

When you call a cab it was often a game of 'will the can actually show up?"

There is an idea that may help this, if it were built and then also used. it’s a form of group decision making based on fluid data that solidifies as more data comes in.

One of the main aspects is that comments and things are compared to others to find how similar they are, something may present itself differently but be the same discussion. This method of identifying each ‘argument’ and ‘rebuttal’ goes hand in hand with declaring definitions so that conversations can’t be flipped around by a bad actor. There’s a big write up of the way it can be used to combat disinformation but as far as I know it’s just the outline of how such a system would work, no one has built the system.

It’s kind of similar to voting sites like reddit but goes a lot farther in defining ways things work, and works so ostracize trolls and the like. but as it would require something no one online would ever go for, being in one way ‘tied’ to your offline person, that I don’t see it ever being a mainstream thing. Of course the accounts people would be using would be in no way identifiable unless selfdoxed they would still be like voter registration in that a real person had to be there once, and all things that person does online are here tied to them so that trolls and things show clearly over time. It’s really designed to be mostly a niche discussion platform engine for people in the same hobby or interest.

I disagree in the sense that I think voting is useful but just up/down is not. A consensus engine that can judge each aspect of a statement alone and in a group can be used to find what is misleading, dishonest, and the like as well as what is simply untrue or lies.

This is just an advertisement for this store. does this place have a hail corporate yet?