• Torvum@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    It’s arrogance to think you’re even on the right path of anything imo. Personally why agnosticism is the only logical outcome. There’s things we can observe and understand and then things so far beyond us and possibly beyond our perception that there is no other word than arrogant to describe anyone who claims to say they’re correct over another. I speak on both chronically online atheists and chronically in pulpit theists. It’s fun to theorize and discuss, but when it comes to putting someone else down because their view of what’s possible is different from yours, that’s cringe.

    Sure it seems probable to believe there isn’t some creator, but there’s literally no possible way to know. If some entity or entities capable of creating the universe existed, I’d assume they’d also have the power to just not be noticed. There’s just no way of knowing, which makes our purpose as you said, individual to those around us and ourselves.

    • pangolinpalantir@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      We can know that certain gods are false simply because they are logically incoherent, but sure, the non falsifiable concepts are simply that, non falsifiable. I’m atheist because I don’t believe in a god, not necessarily because I believe any specific god doesn’t exist.

      I’m with you that putting others down for their beliefs is cringy, but we shouldn’t pretend that having a belief in a god without evidence to back it up is reasonable. There absolutely is a way to know a creator exists, and if they’re powerful enough to create the universe, they know exactly how to demonstrate that.

      • Torvum@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        I don’t think it needs to be reasonable if it gives them comfort in life and i don’t pretend it is. I just think they’re allowed the right to have that thought and defend it if they choose.

        But I don’t think it’s guaranteed to think a creator would want to be known. Maybe the concept of god had motive to stay unnoticed. We’d never know. The mystery is the fun, not the moral superioriterino.