• Hildegarde@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Not enough for voters who are undecided about whether to vote or not.

    Democrats win when turnout is high. It’s not enough to be better than the opponent, to win they must beat apathy.

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      3 months ago

      The two current candidates are so far apart the people who claim to be undecided are ignorant or stupid, willingly or otherwise. I’d understand riding the fence between Biden and Bernie, even if I’ve made my choice between them, but between Trump and Biden?

      That’s the kind of person who is undecided if they want to drive to work or walk down the middle of i-95

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        I think you are perhaps uninformed about the economic state of the poor and working class. Biden hasn’t done a whole lot about people’s grocery bills doubling and tripling, or the soaring increases in rent while the housing supply has remained artificially low, but he’s made sure that blank checks for war appear out of thin air at every turn.

        Can’t expect to win an election like this when people can’t afford to miss a day of work.

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          Yeahhhh, no.

          Like the original commenter said, you are either ignorant or stupid.

          Anyone who actively lived during Trump’s awful years in office has all the info we need to NOT vote for that fucking orange idiot, and instead CLAMBER to anyone with ANY semblance of sanity.

          If you honestly think that Biden losing will help anyone in any way whatsoever (besides Trump and his little rich bastards who are as evil as he is), you, and anyone else who feels that way, are a lost cause.

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            Anyone who is eligible to vote actively lived through the trump years. And a third of those voters disagree with you. Calling them stupid is not an effective way to help them change their minds or voting decisions.

            Day to day economic realities matter to the average voter.

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              I don’t give a flying fuck about changing anyones mind any more. If you actively lived through the awful Trump years, you don’t need your fucking mind changed. Most of those “third of voters” are a lost cause, so I do not give a fuck about trying to get them to maybe open their eyes just a little bit.

              Also, yes, I’m sure the “economic realities” really matter to those voters when this is who they will allow back into office.

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            3 months ago

            Like the original commenter said, you are either ignorant or stupid.

            It’s okay if projecting makes you feel better.

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              Let’s just cut to the chase–is your argument that both sides are the same? Or that voting for Biden is just as bad as voting for Trump, or not voting? Or are you just arguing to stir things up? Trying to figure out where your willful ignorance lies.

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            3 months ago

            “My candidate is just as shitty as the other guy” isn’t quite the profound defense you think it is.

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              That is probably the lamest possible misinterpretation you could make, but I’m sure that’s intentional. Nobody is “both sides”-ing them but you.

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              I think that should say “my candidate is far less shitty than the other guy” which is a different situation.