• Hacksaw@lemmy.ca
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        2 months ago

        Yes, good point. These people are desperate, so we should let a wildly irresponsible company, who during animal testing had identified the thread retraction issue and not fixed it, we should let them experiment on desperate humans because fuck them I guess.

        Yeah the guy was able to do something cool for a while, but now he’s quickly getting back to where he was and with bonus bits of metal all over his brain and no way to fix the problem.

        I don’t know if that’s a trade he or anyone would have made going in.

        They need to stop messing around with this Musk “fail fast” approach, that’s not acceptable in medicine. You can’t speed up your research by endangering the most desperate people in society.

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            2 months ago

            They tested on animals, identifying the retraction issue… Then did nothing and installed it into a human anyway.

            In your example it’d be shampoo that chemically burns pig scalps that is pushed to market for humans anyway.

            Stop being an apologist and think about what it means to have billionaires treating desperate people as guinea pigs for invasive technology testing.

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                2 months ago

                Look, at this point it’s just an agree to disagree thing. You think it’s ok for companies to do irreversible operations as long as subjects are desperate enough to consent. Others think that’s abusive. There’s obviously no changing your mind. That’s ok, just move on.

                And no. If you’ve spent any amount of time here then you know that a ton of people here are also against bezos and pretty much every other billionaires out there.

                And for what it’s worth, I do see your point. And I’d probably be inclined to agree. But at the same time, I do see the fact that it’s morally questionable

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        2 months ago

        He literally said he “was a waste”

        And now he’s not a “waste” anymore, right?

        He’s now a piece of meat to be used and abused for the egotistical whims of one of the world’s most notorious capitalist parasites.

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          not an elon cuck, @FonsNihilo@lemmy.ca is just pointing out that the TEST SUBJECT HIMSELF has had only good things to say about this implant. i hate ketamine boy as much as you do, but it isnt like musky balls is building these himself, there are real professional engineers doing this, so it working should not be attributed to musk. he came up with the name and the vague idea, thats it.

          EDIT: nvm.

          In an interview with the Journal, Neuralink’s first patient, 29-year-old Noland Arbaugh, opened up about the roller-coaster experience. “I was on such a high and then to be brought down that low. It was very, very hard,” Arbaugh said. “I cried.” He initially asked if Neuralink would perform another surgery to fix or replace the implant, but the company declined, telling him it wanted to wait for more information.

          fuck the neuralink people. all their test subjects are disposable to them, i guess.

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            2 months ago

            Huh, the unethical company that installed known-bad tech into a human is acting unethically. Interesting.

            His family should sue them for fraud and whatever crime is to knowingly injure someone with subpar products.

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              Considering this is pretty much ground-breaking work involving brain surgery, I think it’s prudent for Neuralink to wait to see what happens instead of immediately performing another surgery. If I were in charge I’d definitely take things slowly and surely instead of trying to move fast and possibly break things.