• masquenox@lemmy.world
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    or even general framework of what fascism is.

    Oh… now we’re no longer talking about “definitions,” are we? We have now shifted to “general frameworks?”

    And you accuse me of shifting goalposts?

    Despite this, you still expect other people

    Yes, liberal - I still expect you to defend your ideology and your ideology’s proximity to fascism.

    so that we may actually discuss it.

    We are discussing it, liberal - which part of this…

    They (liberals) are anxious to ignore the fact that fascism originates from the very violence that is used to enforce the liberal order.

    …are you having a hard time understanding? We are discussing the very roots of fascism - which happens to be the very same roots of your precious liberal status quo.

    Are you anxious to ignore that too, liberal? For someone that claims to not be “constrained to the ideological boundaries” of liberalism, you sure seem to be acting no different than a bog-standard liberal pearl-clutcher when it comes to confronting the fascism that violently enforces your precious status quo for you.

    Do tell, liberal… where were you when antifascists were actually fighting neo-nazis, klan-boys and their pig-friends in the streets a few years ago? Let me guess… heckling the antifascists from the sidelines? Like a good liberal is supposed to?

    Will you be doing the same come November?

    My assertion here is that there has not been a perfect, equitable society in human history.

    Why are you peddling the same pretexts and justifications for fascism that the alt-right peddles?

    The ideological gap between you and fascism seems to be shrinking with every exchange.

    than throw out the everything and live without society

    Soooo… as you have provided zero evidence to prove that your zombie-fiction tropes will come to pass as soon as fascist violence doesn’t enforce your precious liberal order for you, I must assume that you are simply too squeamish to admit your endorsement of said fascist violence (as long as it isn’t aimed at you, of course)

    I’d say we’ve come to the point where there is only one thing left to be discerned… why do you even bother hiding it?

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      Oh… now we’re no longer talking about “definitions,” are we? We have now shifted to “general frameworks?”

      Yes, because you have refused in any way to communicate a meaning of the word. That’s on you, not me. Literally your doing, and it’s the core premise of 90% of your statements, but you can’t even tell us what means.

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          Can’t really tell you. Since you have consistently demonstrated a complete lack of awareness of what either of those words mean.

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            Can’t really tell you.

            Oh, that I have to concede. I don’t even think you’d be able to tell.

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              Kindly fuck off. You can’t even address the core component of our original discussion. I’m throwing the final gauntlet here. You name a time, place, or system of government that was fair and equitable in the last 8000 years, and I’ll write an apology to you, admit you are far superior, and delete everything except that statement from my account . If you can’t do that, then don’t even bother fucking replying. I’m just going to copy-paste a reply calling you a moron and pointing out that you have failed again to rise to the most basic level of honest discourse.