• sebinspace@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Not making a point here, I just like numbers:

    China has a population of ~1.4 billion

    China has 698 billionares

    China has the one billionare for every 2,005,730 people.

    United States has a population of ~340 million

    United States has 724 billionaires

    US has one billionaire for every 469,613 people.

    Edit: I like numbers. I don’t like Reddit/Lemmy formatting.

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      I think it’d be better when adjusted for GDP.

      China gdp: $17.96 trillion

      China has 1 billionare / $25.73 billion GDP or 1 billionare / $18.22 GDP / capita

      US gpd: $27.94 trillion

      US has 1 billionare / $38.59 billion GDP or 1 billionare / $114.88 GDP / capita

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        Wouldn’t a lower number of billionaires to a higher amount of profits be more favorable to everyone except billionaires? So that particular example actually favors the system in the USA, oddly.

        Of course, GDP only accounts for excess goods and services sold to other nations, which for the USA includes financial services like trading platforms and exchanges, heavily skewing their actual production capacity.

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          I think so, yeah. Also, billionaire means anything more than 1 billion, right? It might help to look at how much wealth they actually have; for example, if one nation has 1 billionaire (with $30 billion) and another has 30 billionaires (each with $1 billion), I wouldn’t argue that the former is especially better off.

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      It’s worth noting, though, that this doesn’t take into account the levels of inequality beyond comparing numbers of billionaires/non-billionaires.

      The Gini coefficient is a popular method of measuring economic inequality, on a scale from 0 (total equality) to 1 (one person owns the entire nation’s wealth).

      As of 2019, the US and China had Gini coefficients of 0.481 and 0.465 respectively, making them extremely similar in overall wealth inequality, which is extremely high for both nations.

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      6 months ago

      you are being generous if you think your average reactionary will understand such a heavy concept of per capita

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        It’s a good thing that all that time and resources and blood was spent making the CCP the only instrument of significant political power in China so they could [check notes] as a much-poorer country, have about the same number of billionaires as the poster country for capitalism!

        Power to the people('s billionaires)!

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          did i say anything about the ccp?

          in any case the country has seen the unprecedented growth in the economy and quality of life since its inception. not perfect, not too shabby.

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            did i say anything about the ccp?

            The PRC, which is run exclusively by the CCP, is kind of the topic of discussion here. Is that too complex for you to grasp?

            in any case the country has seen the unprecedented growth in the econony and quality of life since its inception.

            It’s hilarious that tankies throw fits over capitalist countries using the same measure to judge their successes, but immediately resort to it when their favorite fascist state is questioned.

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              i dont recall throwing any fits about measures of success. the person you are thinking of is not me.

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          yo you might be looking into a mirror here. ml is a popular leftist instance, wonder why you hate it mmmmmmmmm 🤔