Hamas has indicated it is currently unable to identify and track down 40 Israeli hostages needed for the first phase of a ceasefire deal, according to an Israeli official and a source familiar with the discussions, raising fears that more hostages may be dead than are publicly known.
  • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
    01·
    7 months ago

    Article is way better than the headline…

    The framework that has been laid out by negotiators says that during a first six-week pause in the fighting, Hamas should release 40 of the remaining hostages, including all the women as well as sick and elderly men. In exchange, hundreds of Palestinian prisoners would be released from Israeli prisons.

    Hamas has told international mediators – which include Qatar and Egypt - it does not have 40 living hostages who match those criteria for release, both sources said.

    CNN’s record of the conditions of the hostages also suggests there are fewer than 40 living hostages who meet the proposed criteria.

    Hamas just hasn’t been taking civilian noncombatants as hostages like Israel has been doing.

    Most hostages are combatants, and that doesn’t meet the details for this requirement

    The majority of the almost 100 hostages who remain alive are believed to be male IDF soldiers or men of military reserve age.

    • Rapidcreek@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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      7 months ago

      Hamas just hasn’t been taking civilian noncombatants as hostages like Israel has been doing.

      Totally untrue

      • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
        01·
        7 months ago

        Where are Hamas getting them?

        Like, do you think this is an actual war where both sides attack each other’s territories?

        Seriously, at what point in the last six months would Hamas have captured non combatants?

          • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
            01·
            7 months ago

            Try to keepup.

            I have…

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Israeli–Palestinian_prisoner_exchange

            Again, your own article says CNN knows there aren’t 40 hostages left that aren’t noncombatants.

            Israel keeps taking civilians hostage, so they have enough.

            Since 10/7 the only Israelis Hamas interacts with are combatants. They literally don’t have enough hostages left for this deal, which is likely how the deal arrived at that number.

            It’s something that literally is impossible to comply with, and Israel gets to blame Hamas.

            This ain’t complicated bub. Your own source agrees with me.

            You should read it

        • Stovetop@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          7 months ago

          I am not here to give Israel a W, but Hamas still has a number of civilian captives from the original October 7 attack. Just not as many surviving as was assumed.

          According to Israel’s own figures, there are 90 or so living hostages and 30 or so bodies still held by Hamas IIRC. Apparently most of the 90 survivors are non-civilians, based on what Hamas is saying, but some of them still are.

          • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
            01·
            7 months ago

            According to Israel’s own figures,

            But not according to anyone else’s…

            Israel has been flattening the entire area, they can’t keep track of how many they kill, regardless of what country they’re from.

            But the article OP linked even says there aren’t 40 noncombatants left…

            CNN’s record of the conditions of the hostages also suggests there are fewer than 40 living hostages who meet the proposed criteria.

            I’m not sure what you’re not understanding about this.

            Or why you’re listening to Israel still