What happens in November is up to Biden – it will not be the fault of the protest voter if Trump is elected. The questions remain: does the Democratic party fear Trump as much as we do? And does it value its voters enough to shift away from an approach to the onslaught in Gaza that a majority of Democratic voters are against?

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    It’s reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally simple:

    Voting Biden in gives us time to take all this energy we’re mustering up and using it to promote broader, more significant changes. We don’t stop at the election and instead use the next four years to push toward a better tomorrow.

    Too many people are stopping at Trump v. Biden. Too many more are stopping at Them v “The System”.

    Change takes time. When you vote for Biden, you vote to reset the clock, and then it’s time for all of us to get to work.

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      Can you explain how you expect to push for a better tomorrow after Biden is re-elected?

      The reason I am reluctant to vote for Biden is that he is supporting genocide. If Biden continues to give away large quantities of child-exploding bombs, and he is still rewarded with reelection, then what leverage will the anti-genocide movement have left?

      It seems like if Biden can ignore the anti-genocide movement and still win, then we can expect Biden to keep ignoring for 4 more years.

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          I expect Trump to do horrible things. I expect Trump to be worse than Biden.

          What does that have to do with my questions?

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            It has everything to do with your question. Biden has already proven he is willing to roll over on many issues. Biden has gotten a lot done these last four years, far more than most of us expected. Meanwhile, and I am NOT downplaying the severity of the genocide, people like you are using that in exactly the same way you accuse people like me of using Trump. Thing is your reluctance to help Biden get into office, and acknowledgement of the likely atrocities Trump would attempt, does you no favors. You can’t see past your own anger to the bigger picture, and it’s a damn shame. Because where Biden buys us time to continue coming together and push for change, Trump will attempt to lock us, and the very many minorities, LGPTQ+ communities, and any person not white and certainly anyone who stands against him, possibly and quite literally behind bars. He is so damned bad that the ENTIRE WORLD was pushing back against his Presidency and are terrified of him winning again. Except Russia.

            Either we step the fuck up and stop being bitches and work together for a change over the next few years, or all this shit, every single part of it, will occur again in 2028. Including, as happens nearly every god damn fucking time, a serious situation that splits our attention and our support while the Right looks on and smirks. Every. Time. And we keep falling for it because we care.

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              I’m not angry, I was asking an honest question that no one has answered yet: how?

              You say you take the genocide seriously, and you say electing Biden is buying us time to push for change, so answer my question then:

              How will we effectively push the Biden administration to change Gaza policy after he is re-elected?

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            Because that is literally the entire campaign for the DNC: “but what about Trump!”.

            They love Trump because he’s the ultimate boogeyman to strong-arm voters to fall into line.

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          I expect Trump to continue being a boogeyman so people like you can keep saying this instead of working for any real change that makes people’s lives better. ‘Just push Biden left’ turned into ‘Well you have no other choice’ real quick.