What happens in November is up to Biden – it will not be the fault of the protest voter if Trump is elected. The questions remain: does the Democratic party fear Trump as much as we do? And does it value its voters enough to shift away from an approach to the onslaught in Gaza that a majority of Democratic voters are against?

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    What happens in November is up to Biden – it will not be the fault of the protest voter if Trump is elected.

    If Trump is elected, I will blame both Biden AND the protest voter.

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      But not the people who chose someone supporting genocidal actions instead of the people demanding better.

      It’s this simple, if all of y’all who spend your time trying to convince those of us who don’t want to support sending Israel all the weaponry they want, while defending them against the consequences of their own actions, while using our money to do so, and having Israel use $13b a year of our money to do so, would instead work with us, we could actually make a change:

      And if at the end of the day that causes us to lose, it means that America is full of people who support this and they should get their way.

      At least we find out where we really stand.

      You guys spend all day trying to drag us to the side of “ Okay with sending bombs to kill more children.”, maybe you could drag people to the side of “Let’s not send more bombs to kill kids:”

      I know which side I am staying on, and if we get outvoted, such is democracy.

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        People demanding better is not a side, and thus cannot win. The let’s not bomb kids side has zero power. Your choice is between bombing kids and bombing more kids. Enabling the bombing more kids side means your fake morals outweigh the sloppy real-world political situation that actually exists.

        Your house is on fire. You are standing equidistant from a full petrol can and a bucket of water, and you’re deciding not to act because neither is the perfect solution.

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          In the short term, your position is justifiable. But in the long term, it’s anti-democratic. The reasoning you’ve provided here has been used for many elections in the past and can be used forever into the future. But if we’re forced to choose between two bad parties, and there’s never a chance of a third party accomplishing anything good, then nobody will ever represent us.

          And if we’re stuck in a non-democracy forever, then it makes sense for people to pursue other more radical solutions. Is that what you want? It’s the natural implication of your message.

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          Or work with us to pick a different candidate.

          Make clear we won’t stand for him and that their only option is to run a new candidate.

          As long as you keep giving them what they want, they won’t change

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            Name one candidate with the name recognition to win who has also expressed an interest in running in 2024.

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              Ah, there’s the rub isn’t it, they wont run another candidate because everyone is supposed to just fall I. Line.

              Run Whitmer, she did great things in WI