• flying_sheep@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    What do you mean? Don’t you think transitioning to mostly renewables while coal and gas go down are good things?

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      6 months ago

      Nuclear is affordable, efficient and proven. Abandoning it instead of promoting it was a dumb, conservative move that hurt everyone involved. Except Russian billionaires, of course.

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        6 months ago

        Nuclear power is expensive and slow to build. Wind and solar are much, much cheaper and quicker.

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          They already had it and it was working just fine. They tore it down and went full coal and some gas. Now wind and solar are taking over slowly, but it’s been years with more pollution and more radiation than any already working nuclear plant would have emmited.

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          this ignores the key issue that in Germany, there was already an extensive and perfectly functional nuclear industry. In other countries with no nuclear infrastructure, renewables are definitely the better, cheaper, more scalable choice - but countries which invested big many decades ago are in a different position, and Germany’s deliberate destruction of their nuclear capabilities has left them dependant on fossil fuels from an adversarial state - easily a worse situation than small amounts of carefully managed nuclear waste while renewables were scaled up.

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          Nuclear is only expensive and slow if you’re building reactors from 1960-s. Modern micro- and nano-reactors can be put in every yard in a matter of months if not weeks.

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      6 months ago

      The idiots on here firmly believe that nuclear creates zero waste. In their deranged head there is no nuclear waste that will last for longer than humanity existed.

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        6 months ago

        Compared to renewables, nuclear creates pretty much zero waste. The whole story of nuclear energy created less waste than one year of waste from solar panels alone.

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            Toxicity I believe is about equal. Storage requirements are a bit stricter for nuclear in terms of storage container requirements, but much much much less in terms of storage space. Overall, it is much cheaper to safely dispose of the nuclear waste then waste from solar power.

            Note: radiation is not toxicity.

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              Thanks for this picture-perfect post of a nuke-stan / nuke-bot

              Toxicity I believe is about equal.

              I generally try to respect other peoples religion but yours is a threat to the ecosphere. I believe you know your statement is bullshit.

              Storage requirements are a bit stricter for nuclear in terms of storage container requirements

              People opposed to nuclear know this already but why do you think that is?

              Follow up: How long does it need to be safely stored? Please note the number of years.

              Humanity is about 300.000 years old, the Pyramids of Gizeh were build about 4600 years ago, the Vandals sacked Rome 1569 years ago, WW2 ended about 80 years ago. Now compare the those times with the time radioactive waste needs to be safely stored (and it definitely isn’t at the moment).

              Note: radiation is not toxicity.

              FYI: There are generally five types of toxicities: chemical, biological, physical, radioactive and behavioural.

              To be fair radioactive toxicity stands a bit out because it is (in your wording) much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much more toxic than anything else possibly including ‘forever chemicals’.

              Nuclear energy is not cheaper nor safer, you’re just kicking a toxic, radioactive can down the road.