• Neuromancer@lemm.eeOPM
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    7 months ago

    No, I think we should limit the cost of drugs based solely on cost to manufacture and distribute, and pay those operational costs

    If we payed for the research. I agree. Otherwise companies will just spend less on research. I don’t mind capping margins unless they don’t enforce the patent.

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      Yeah research is part of the cost to manufacture cause you first need to know what you’re making hahaha.

      Margin-capping isn’t even something to consider when you don’t run it for profit. with wages for workers included in the cost to manufacture and distribute there’s no need to profit further.

      I think the people should own the means of production where it makes sense. Healthcare is an obvious example because it’s a service directly for us.

      People getting rich and making millions off the suffering of an unhealthy population is morally wrong.

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        If there is no profit, then nobody would make it.

        think the people should own the means of production where it makes sense.

        It never makes sense. You can do that now, but nobody does because it doesn’t make sense.

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          If there is no profit, then nobody would make it.

          You forgot the part where I said their pay is considered part of the cost to manufacture and distribute.

          Non-profits have no problem staying staffed.

          It absolutely makes sense for the people to own the mechanism that directly benefits their wellbeing, yes.

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            7 months ago

            Then why haven’t you started this business? Sounds like you have it all figured out

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              Because we need congressional action to make it legal, and to make the current system of profiteering off healthcare illegal.

              I would love to be a part of those discussions and fully intend to continue doing so ;)

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                It is already legal. You can start your own company tomorrow and make it a non-profit. So why haven’t you done it?

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                  Because even that is too much overhead. Non-profits don’t profit because they have to spend every penny they have left over on operating expenses.

                  Just pay it from our taxes, like the countries with working Healthcare that Rob mentioned in the post. Clearly he has recognized that’s doable, and a surplus wouldn’t be a violation, it would be a surplus for the next year.

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                    Just pay it from our taxes, like the countries with working Healthcare that Rob mentioned in the post

                    That isn’t how other countries do phrama. They just negotiate the prices. They don’t do their own R&D, Marketing, or manufacturing, as you are suggesting. They just negotiate pricing.