Completely foreseeable response to a greedy mtx cashgrab on a single-player game.
JESUS CHRIST at the amount of suckers talking about MTX being okay in this game because “yOu CaN eArN tHe ItEmS iNgAmE” are missing the point!
Good lord, what happened to being in an uproar about horse armor DLC? I miss those days!
If you add 20+ items of “DLC” into a singleplayer game THE FIRST DAY, you deserve for your company to go belly up. Full stop.
I’m not against the idea of MTX, I think there’s a place for them. For instance I don’t mind if a game sells deluxe edition upgrade as a MTX because that’s ultimately pro-consumer. Without that option you’re either going to have to bite the bullet and hope you enjoy the game or pay extra to get the same game twice if you do enjoy it enough. I know I used that option with BG3.
That said, selling in game resources as MTX is fucking stupid. It’s just fundamentally incompatible with good games. If the resources are abundant there’s no reason to sell them as MTX. If they’re scarce then they’re either deliberately scarce for the purpose of selling the MTX which is just scummy, or they’re scarce for some other reason (like if you don’t want to make fast traveling everywhere easily accessible) then selling that resource as MTX just undermines the purpose of the scarcity.
Deluxe editions of games are anti-consumer even if it is an upgrade. Just sell the whole fucking game to me or don’t sell anything at all.
If I was into modding, I’d do this too.
Single player games should not have micro transactions for power ups. Period.
There was never any need. All the micro transactions were just time skips for the dumb. The systems are the same dragons dogma systems they had in the first one. They didn’t artificially change things to be grinder. They just put in paid for cheats.
If you want to use them, that’s fine, and certainly, this over paying for it. But people framing this as a need is bad. Which is expected of eurogamers headlines the past few years.
Nobody has ever claimed you need them to finish the game.
The frequently spoken rule of thumb for micro-transactions being “not a big deal” is that they should be cosmetic only if the base game isn’t free.
This game’s micro-transactions are gameplay modifying items and in-game currency packs. That’s a violation of the rule of thumb, so lots of us are saying it’s a big deal.
I don’t want this normalized. Because if it becomes the norm then full pay to win is much easier to normalize.
But even without that fear, it’s absolutely just gross on its own.
They deserve all of the negative reviews and press they’re getting for it.
MTX are bad in general but these MTX look identical to what they’ve put into recent games like RE4 Remake and DMC5. Mechanically it is all items such as Red Orbs in DMC5.
I wasn’t even aware that there were MTX in DMC when I was playing it. Have they made the option more prominent in this game? Or is there just more outrage about this game because it has had a rocky launch and gamers smell weakness?
There’s is no need for the microtransactions in the first place.
They don’t help you at all other than the first dozen hours, and the way they would help you will ruin your game curve.
The game isn’t designed around you having a portcrystal day one.
Edit: The game is a power fantasy. The whole point is you start out weak as shit where three goblins own you and you grow to the point you are using a half dozen weapons you’ve become a master in to kill dragons in seconds.
Buying more power at the beginning of that curve ruins the entire point of the game. This was CAPCOM execs saying “you need to put microtransactions in the game” and then the devs going “ok, how about this piece of junk over here players will have stacks of by endgame that could be a microtransaction.” And then the CAPCOM exec signing off who didn’t even play the game going “great, this will make shareholders happy.”
The only thing that’s useful is the portcrystal, and you will max out the number you can even use in a NG+ playthrough.
TLDR: Don’t buy the mtx and don’t use the mods either. These aren’t supposed to be part of your power curve in the game and were an afterthought that ruins the design if used.
I could get the game for free, the mtx for free, and could want to play it, and would still never do it, because of how stupid this is. Sorry studio artists, your work is forever tainted for the choices of your owners. It will never shine through their dense immoral greed of your masters.
You’re just denying yourself a really fun experience. The game is actually really good especially if you’re able to download it without paying if the whole morality thing is what’s stopping you. If it’s available I’d get it.
I won’t stand for it, it’s just not worth it. There’s other fun games that don’t associate with mafia scum. I dislike how they steal money and consecutively contribute negatively to humanity
You mean capitalism? Good luck.
No. Good luck
I dislike how they steal money and consecutively contribute negatively to humanity
Steal money, I’m assuming in this case, is sell a product. They aren’t forcing anyone to buy it, but it is scummy as hell. That’s capitalism for you.
Contribute negatively to humanity, I’m not sure what that means. If it means exploiting people, that’s capitalism!
There are no non-indie studios not participating in this. It sucks, but the goal (in capitalism) is to maximize profits. They are attempting to milk customers as much as they can for this purpose. This game isn’t even particularly bad about it. Modern gaming all is like this and it’s aweful, but it is what it is. You can participate in this game or not, but this one game isn’t the only place this is happening. It’s happening literally everywhere, like egg prices going up due to “supply shortages” and never going back to normal. That’s capitalism.
They literally steal money. That’s your problem, you think they are following your rules and swallow that they are engaged in conduct that is okay without scrutinising it in the least because it would be a real hassle and you know nobody would deal with it anyway. Because this is the only way to make a difference. I am a game developer, I know the industry, the bastards in these mafia cells are straight up stealing. Nobody creative has any choice. Nobody has a fucking supply shortage. Creatives are being abused, I want to only participate when I can be assured these insane practices are not involved. It’s not capitalism it’s pure greedy crime
That’s your problem, you think they are following your rules and swallow that they are engaged in conduct that is okay without scrutinising it in the least because it would be a real hassle and you know nobody would deal with it anyway.
Please, read my comment again. I scrutinized it. It’s just that it’s fucking everywhere. This game is getting a ton of shit for it and it isn’t even a very bad offender. It sucks, but this isn’t the game that deserves the hate. At least it’s not loot boxes or other gambling mechanics. Also, it’s not theft. It’s manipulative, but it’s not “literally stealing”.
I want to only participate when I can be assured these insane practices are not involved.
This will never happen. If they’re incentivized to do scummy things to make more profit, you can almost be assured they’ll do it. Regardless, you can never be sure it’s not happening. Remember how we hear about sexual abuse occasionally and it turns out it’s been happening for decades? Yeah, now think about how often they’re doing things that aren’t technically illegal that we don’t hear about.
It’s not capitalism it’s pure greedy crime
If greedy crime is profitable, that’s capitalism incentivizing it. The goal of capitalism is to maximize profits. That goal does not align with what we should want it to. We should prioritize happiness, good, creativity, or almost anything else. That’s not the system we’re in though.
There are lots of good games out there from moral companies. He doesn’t need to play this one.
Why? Like, I generally draw a pretty hard line with predatory games, but this just seems pointless. There’s nothing you can get from the MTX that you can’t easily get through normal gameplay. It’s admittedly a trap for the ignorant, but a pretty pointless one.
I won’t be paying for this game on principle. I might not even play it.
