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        4 months ago

        It’s blocked here in China. If the Spanish really want, they’ll find a way.

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          You really can’t compare any other country to the Great Firewall of China.

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            Hasn’t the Great Firewall been in place for as long as China had internet, or was there a period where they had full access to the Internet? Yea if it has that’s what 20/30 years of development lmao

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              If you can circumvent it, it’s not blocked.

              Given this seems to bizarrely be a copyright thing, it’s going to fail at its intended goal immediately—pirates typically don’t mind jumping through a hoop to get stuff for free.

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                So if you can drive faster than the speedlimit, there’s no speedlimit. …

                Its blocked no matter if some can circumvent it or not. You are discussing the effectiveness of the block that you argue is not there

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                  If someone intends to block traffic on a road using a road block, and puts the block mostly on the pavement next to the road, the block is there but it’s not blocking any cars.

                  An ineffective block does not block what it’s supposed to, it’s still a block, it’s just not blocking anything.

                  We might be getting into philosophy here though

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          If you can reach any sites like this, you could reach telegram if you wanted to badly enough.

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            Sites like what? Lemmy isn’t blocked.

            And sure, I can use a VPN, but that’s also illegal. So I can definitely break one law to break another, no problem.

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    oh sure. ban the ONLY modern chat client not running on electron.

    get fucked, spain!

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        agreed. but chats are there to keep in touch, collaborate, and communicate. so we don’t have much of a choice, especially since most people just don’t care about security and stick with Messenger or similar. in my circles though, it’s a lot easier to convince someone to use Telegram unlike one of the many XMPP clients, and seeing as it runs natively, it’s my only real choice.

        personally, I’d be all over DeltaChat if it wasn’t running on electron. brilliant idea for sure, as there would be no convincing necessary to keep in touch with practically anyone on the planet.

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      Signal, Whatsapp and many Matrix Clients including the new Element X are not Electron based afaik

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        mobile is not the problem for many reasons. one being that apps offload so there is no system wide slowdown like you experience on a modern high end computer, caused by electron.

        all those protocols only offer shitty electron apps on desktop.

        i have a top end m1 mbp and it can handle 2 electron apps running concurrently at best. i won’t even install electron apps anymore because i need to be able to actually use my computer for work. which is a bit ironic as most modern utility applications which would be useful for work can’t even be used on most computers unless run as the single active app (great workflow, lol!).

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    I’m Spanish. And really, that judge is just in the pocket of the spanish media corporations. Telegram is used by 8 million spanish users daily for lots of different things.

    Recently the UE forced WhatsApp to open a protocol so it can be compatible precisely with Telegram to avoid a monopoly.

    If telegram elevates to the european court due to abuse of the spanish authorities they should win.